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Symbolic Interactionism
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#61 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:30:44 PM
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Muriel wrote:

Yes its within the realm.

Its also descriptive of an internal turmoil that disrupts continuity.


Muriel wrote:
Yes, contradictions are everywhere eg here. I love it for the opportunity it presents for review but hate it for the annoyance it brings interrupting consistency. It is a short cut, a lazy cut, to logic.

Its more convenient, hence ease, than a more elaborate mental activity.


Does internal turmoil fit that description?

How is it a short cut, a lazy cut to logic?
Muriel
#62 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:50:49 PM
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Instead of piecing together a train of thoughts - even over several threads - earlier threads are forgotten as if they didnt exist.

A calm mind can reflect what it earlier had expressed and make attempts to reconcile it with what its trying to express now even if only out of fear of self embarrasment. This is the mental activity.
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#63 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:01:45 PM
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Which is easier,reconciliation or perspective and context?
aemathenge
#64 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:03:56 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Instead of piecing together a train of thoughts - even over several threads - earlier threads are forgotten as if they didnt exist.

A calm mind can reflect what it earlier had expressed and make attempts to reconcile it with what its trying to express now even if only out of fear of self embarrasment. This is the mental activity.


Sorry.

Is all you can't say.....


Talk about eating your words.

But then it never did cause indigestion, did it?
tycho
#65 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:59:09 PM
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@symbols and Muriel, you're conversation has really made my evening. I'm sure with the 'new entrant' it's going to be more enjoyable.

But if you love contradiction, and I do, we can build a nice pen for the ruminant so that we may play with it as we feed it. 'Dig' into it, till it's 'dehorned' hahahahaha.

tycho
#66 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:00:42 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Instead of piecing together a train of thoughts - even over several threads - earlier threads are forgotten as if they didnt exist.

A calm mind can reflect what it earlier had expressed and make attempts to reconcile it with what its trying to express now even if only out of fear of self embarrasment. This is the mental activity.


Sorry.

Is all you can't say.....


Talk about eating your words.

But then it never did cause indigestion, did it?


Especially when you have many stomach chambers!
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#67 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 12:01:44 AM
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tycho wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Instead of piecing together a train of thoughts - even over several threads - earlier threads are forgotten as if they didnt exist.

A calm mind can reflect what it earlier had expressed and make attempts to reconcile it with what its trying to express now even if only out of fear of self embarrasment. This is the mental activity.


Sorry.

Is all you can't say.....


Talk about eating your words.

But then it never did cause indigestion, did it?


Especially when you have many stomach chambers!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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symbols
#68 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:28:30 AM
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Laughing out loudly Rerax
tycho
#69 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:30:58 AM
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symbols wrote:
Laughing out loudly Rerax


I take deep breaths. Hahaha. I relax.
symbols
#70 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:33:55 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
Laughing out loudly Rerax


I take deep breaths. Hahaha. I relax.


whatever makes your dayLaughing out loudly
Muriel
#71 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:43:29 AM
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Symbols,

Reconciliation is definitley not the easiest of the three but its the most important for us. We must be extremly careful that we dont lapse into the 'ease' as others that i have spoken of readily do.

We must do what our minds would fain be excused from. But for reconciliation to be necessary it has to be needed- meaning a dance first.

Eg mahegoat is or has danced and now may be up for reconciliation.

Mahegoat, I am sorry. I look forward to learning from you as from my friends and the 'others' new things. Ive accepted what you say with gratitude.

As with knowledge you can also learn from my friends and I just as my friends and I can also learn from you.
'We' can make the 'spirit' and 'family' and 'friendship' of wazua truly enjoyable.

Yes, you can 'belong'.




Tycho be nice, lol.
symbols
#72 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:05:20 AM
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It's life.Sometimes it's hard,sometimes it's easy.Sometimes good,sometimes bad.You can try and enjoy the ride to the extent you can or fight it.
Muriel
#73 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:22:24 AM
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It is all 'relationship'. A link or bond. The finer details eg 'hard' 'easy' 'good' 'bad' are details and can be worked on with time. They can be at the start of the relationship.
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#74 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:29:52 AM
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They're just details/stimuli.At the end of the day you still have to act on both the known and unknown and hopefully be ready to deal with the consequences.It's not about dismissing things but appreciating this experience we call life.You still end up deriving some sort of meaning to your experience.
tycho
#75 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:47:08 AM
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All I can think of at the moment is Ecclesiastes 7:16, where we are charged to be neither too wise, nor too righteous lest we are 'dumbfounded', or lest 'we kill ourselves'.

Sounds just like Aristotle or Confucius. But it's only now that I'm seeing the import.
symbols
#76 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:51:41 AM
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Just stimuli attributed to meaning whether common or uncommon.
Muriel
#77 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 8:56:32 AM
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Is this not something?

I am also just seeing the import.

How could i have known i would learn something today?
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#78 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:16:28 AM
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It is something and that to me is the beauty of it.It goes beyond our differences and perspectives and though it might be the cause of it,it also seems to be the uniting factor.Stimuli is something basic among all things living and non-living.
kenyanbeef
#79 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 12:12:44 PM
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@muriel = @symbols.

An in depth symbolic assessment of the forgoing tete a tete... Which in all its abstractness, the two supposedly 'distinct' minds seem to comprehend effortlessly.
kysse
#80 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 12:23:19 PM
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kenyanbeef wrote:
@muriel = @symbols.

as far as the east is from the west..
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