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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Ngong wrote:Can I join this dance,looks refreshing to me,spiritually I mean! You start in the heart. Then it follows. Naturally.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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tycho wrote:Ngong wrote:Can I join this dance,looks refreshing to me,spiritually I mean! You start in the heart. Then it follows. Naturally. Sure? This guy I see in this video never started in a gym?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Ngong wrote:tycho wrote:Ngong wrote:Can I join this dance,looks refreshing to me,spiritually I mean! You start in the heart. Then it follows. Naturally. Sure? This guy I see in this video never started in a gym? No. A gym can't give you a six pack. But 'gymnosophy' can. The Greeks used this word for people of his kind. You can check it on Wikipedia to see how it all starts in the heart.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects  Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points? Just satisfied.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points? Just satisfied. Why do you have such a 'small stomach'?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points? Just satisfied. Why do you have such a 'small stomach'? What does that mean?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points? Just satisfied. Why do you have such a 'small stomach'? What does that mean? That you get satisfied with just a morsel, a few lines. I was hoping to ask you what you think of my interpretation. I was also going to ask you what your interpretation could be.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:The usual suspects Muriel wrote:
And that he 'dances with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart'.
Anyway,what's your interpretation?I can't make the connection. I can only attach Abel's interpretation of this dance. And I am wondering Do you mean 'dance with the ultimate, at the altar of his heart' in connection to being 'free, and a builder'? Or 'dance with the ultimate' in connection to 'the altar of his heart'? But what is my interpretation when he can give it himself? I would have asked him then but I was/am satisfied.It's your interpretation on any or both that intrigues me. I am 'symbols' and I am not. Indeed! Symbols have different meanings. One meaning will be properly understood by one and the other by the rest. Yours is a heavy question. How can I arrange an explanation? In all its brilliance or appropriately proportioned? Let me see. The mask and the face at the same time.Anyway,take your time.Any answer will do.Won't even ask another question after that. Abel's interpretation. Here goes ,,,,,,,,, 'Heart' is the seat of all cognitive, rational decision making. Hence the, but unfortunately mis-followed, 'advice' 'to follow your heart'. 'It' all starts in the heart. Check. Hence, 'dancing in the heart' implies a mental clash, or a great reasoning. Adding 'altar' to 'dancing in the heart' implies involvement of 'spirituality'. Check. Now, the 'ultimate' ,,,,,,, It can be either or, the mask and the face. Sorry I took an awful lot of time but I wont mind another question, discussion. Time and study. Knowledge. Thanks.I'm good.I don't have any more questions. Noooooo! No! No! No! Why don't have more talking points? Just satisfied. Why do you have such a 'small stomach'? What does that mean? That you get satisfied with just a morsel, a few lines. I was hoping to ask you what you think of my interpretation. I was also going to ask you what your interpretation could be. I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no. Interesting. For what you recognized, I hope it rhymed with what you already know?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no. Interesting. For what you recognized, I hope it rhymed with what you already know?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no. Interesting. For what you recognized, I hope it rhymed with what you already know? Yes and no.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no. Interesting. For what you recognized, I hope it rhymed with what you already know? Yes and no. Ecstatic! So what you recognized and that also rhymed with what you already know are within your parameters. Good thing I do not insist on sensible evidence. I will take your word on it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
I was interested in what was embedded in the interpretation not the answer itself the same case with @tycho's post.My interpretation isn't based on parameters I can put in words.
Symbols, I am aware of that. We, you and I and others, certainly are not superficial with words here. I am sure you have noticed something. I won't ask what you noticed but rather did you recognize what you noticed? Yes and no. Interesting. For what you recognized, I hope it rhymed with what you already know? Yes and no. Ecstatic! So what you recognized and that also rhymed with what you already know are within your parameters. Good thing I do not insist on sensible evidence. I will take your word on it. Recognizing one pen doesn't mean you've seen them all.But it's best to leave it at that.Remember communication is 10% verbal 90% non-verbal.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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urstill1 wrote:AlphDoti is a true Islam champion in Wazua. I guess whenever some specific words and phrases are mentioned in any topic within Wazua his name comes to most Wazuans minds. I find him convincing in most of his explanations with regards to his belief. Unfortunately, the cookie crumbles when he doesn't respond to certain touchy issues within his belief yet continues to comment further down in a topic. Very selective. Case in point: Caramba wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:The Western brand of thinking can't contain the challenges of the present world, but the traditional African 'systems' have all the necessary ingredients for a peaceful and prosperous world, and universal brotherhood and freedom.
And sweeter still is that even the challenges outlined in the 'Laussane spirit' are so easy to surmount!
Freedom at last. What are these challenges? What is the western brand of thinking/culture and finally what the traditional african 'systems'? Below are some example problems the Western culture has failed to solve, include: (1). Problem of poverty (2). Problem alcoholism and drug abuse (3). Problem of excess women(4). Problem of prostitution (5). Problem of breakdown family unit (6). etc NOTE: To expound on "problem" of povertyYou know we have enough in the universe to feed whole humanity. Why people die of obesity in America? While some die of poverty in Somalia? Because of unequal distribution of wealth. Also removal of interest will help (because too much interest, means less in the hands of people) Is this why women are considered sub-human in many Islamic countries? Saudia-Women not allowed to drive Jordan-Brothers drowning sisters in swimming pools Taliban-The less said, the better. @urstill1 apologies for missing this post ( Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:13:49 AM)... I'm seeing it for the first time today! Five years later... I must have been away for a while in Wazua... If you are still interested, let me know.
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