Yes,most of them are thieves,I cannot eat them even if they are the best or give for free.I value my life.

I wonder which is worse? Being stolen from or being put for a ka-stick from the dark world? Those people I cannot eat, even if they are the best or give very easily. I value my life.

Shida ni when the fellow you're paying insists they wanna be paid in cash. What to do?

@Impunity, pole sana kwa rafiki yako. Reminds me of the stories we shared in the other thread of criminals colluding with bank and SACCO staff.

At times I wonder if there is really an admin for this website. Ama sisi "hawa watu" pia ni wezi? Why do wazuans so tolerant of such stereotypes?

i agree. hii mambo ya kuwa mwananchi (flying) squad to chenga some elements who might be following to steal your money but even worse causing personal harm is just too much....

Also avoid isolated ATM machines especially on Sundays and late hours! And when you withdraw from any ATM, avoid parked cars with people inside. There are some criminals who simply park near ATM machines and attack you immediately after you withdraw. As you walk past the car, one of them steps out with a concealed gun - mostly hidden with a newspaper - shows you the gun and orders you into the car. This brand of criminals don't like attracting attention. If you spot them in advance and do something that might make the process longer - like crossing the road, they don't bother with you! Some times you might even have to avoid the pedestrian walk ways and walk next to the road. This gives you more room to escape or attract attention.

When this fellows get a hold of you, they will rob you off your money and other valuables and force you to reveal your ATM pin number all the time making you believe they will only release you after they withdraw more money and will not hesitate to shoot you if the pin number turns out to be false. Sometimes they will ask you the pin numbers, cram or write them down, hustle you and ask other numerous questions and the ask you the pin numbers again. If they are different from the ones you have earlier, utajua malenge ni mboga!!! This has happened to someone I know.

I guess in this country of ours - and Nairobbery especially - you have to be very scared! Be suspicious of everyone and everything. My friend was RANDOMLY kidnapped in buruburu in broad daylight. The fellow gets a call that his kid is not feeling well and gets into a random matatu to go home and pick him up because he had left the car at home. He alights the matatu in buruburu and as he's trying to cross the road, he see's a white Toyota approaching. He decides to let it pass first. The car stops next to him as if they are dropping someone. The fellow is not bothered at all. It is around midday after all! One fellow steps out shows him a gun and before he knows what is happening he is forced into the car. They drive towards Kariobangi/dandora - his face down - they rob him and force him to reveal all his ATM pin numbers. Hours later he is released unharmed.

in such a situation, you must run full flight towards the nearest bank.. the security in form of cameras, armed guards, public; should dissuade the thugs

Seven robbed after bank withdrawals

"Police suspect gang members collude with bank staff to target customers"

At least seven bank customers have lost Sh600,000 to a gang of four in three days. Police, unable to track down the gang, now urge the public to be more vigilant. Central police officer Patrick Oduma yesterday said they had profiled the Nairobi gang, which includes rogue police officers.

“We even have information that they are looking for money to bail out their colleagues who are in prison remands over other serious offences,” said Mr Oduma.

The gang members are armed and have handcuffs and a police radio. Yesterday, a businessman was robbed Sh400,000 when the gang confronted him at the parking yard. He had just left a bank on Kenyatta Avenue where he withdrew the cash.

“I had just put the money in the car when I was confronted by three men, one in police uniform. One of them just went for the rear seat and picked up the bag containing the cash,” said the victim.

Police also report that on Saturday at around 10am, Mr Francis Mutiti withdrew a total of Sh180,000 from two different banks to buy some items along River Road. While walking along Tom Mboya Street, he was confronted by four armed men who handcuffed him and forced him into the vehicle. He was later dumped along Kiambu Road after being robbed of the cash, mobile phone, cheques, and other valuables.

An hour later, Mr Charles Kyalo withdrew Sh70,000 from a bank at the junction of Moi and Haileselasie avenues. As he was crossing Moi Avenue, he was confronted by three men, one in police uniform. They asked him for his ID card but before he could produce it, he was forced into an awaiting vehicle. They handcuffed him and later abandoned him within Muthaiga after robbing him of the cash and other valuables.

On the same Saturday afternoon, a University of Nairobi student, Mr Joshua Muli was robbed of Sh352,000 which he had withdrawn from a bank on Moi Avenue. As he was crossing the road, he was confronted by a gang, believed to be the same one that attacked Mr Kyalo, who forced him into an awaiting car. He was later dumped at Kamiti corner.

Police suspect the gang members have informers inside the bank who alert them of customers who withdraw large amounts of money. In other cases, they pretend to be customers in the bank and would usually stand in the queue.

-Daily Nation, 17-12-2013, Page 11

My oh my, things have really changed since I was studying at the University.

Also be careful when meeting people who have advertised stuff like cars on OLX and insist to be paid in cash.