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Rank: Member Joined: 2/27/2011 Posts: 518
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matatuman wrote:Rankaz income figures tally with mine. Over time i have noticed that the net income you get depends on your driver i.e. how lazy or thieving he is. My vehicles ply the Muranga Nairobi route. @Prime. The 17k for the back windows should be for both, when i did it it cost me 7k each, total 14.
@Prime: Lucky you got a manual. Maybe we should all share info on the exporters we have relied on on CIF prices, i noticed they tend to overprice units if you are not a dealer. I have brought mine from Tomisho and Al Ain Japan. Thanks matatuman. At least I have a good idea on what I should negotiate to.Is yours a shuttle or normal mat? As fir the manual transmission, ilikuwa ni bahati. I think what we should now focus on more is on who has the best auction terms. What I can tell you is that papera is a no-go zone when it comes to auctions. Their commissions are way too high. You cant even beat the rates they offer for their units. Which beats the purpose of the auctoin in the first place. Let me check out Tomisho and al ain.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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jerry wrote:matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? That covers their commission and deregistration/issue of an export certificate. They will invoice you for jevic which you must inform them 20k yyen, any inland transport fees from the auction house to the exit port(usually specified on the auction site), plus the cost of repairs if any that may be needed for your vehicle to pass jevic. 90k yen is cheap compared to others like integrity exports. Unless you know someone in Japan who can buy the vehicle for you. You also need to pay for freight and insurance since the auction price is fob. I am not sure about registration next year, I had asked the same in a previous thread. Anyone with info?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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jerry wrote:matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? That's not yet clear. For now, the info I have is that matatu SACCOs countrywide have been asked to submit their inventories to TLB. I'm told the TLB wants to compare the new registrations against the slots that had been allocated to the respective matatu SACCOs. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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tmatekwa wrote:I incurred heavy loss from careless drivers, extortionist law enforcers, thieving crews, and incompetent mechanics.
This is a business where the owner pays himself last.
I cashed out, invested in land and have watched my wealth grow without sweating Interesting, considering you are an old timer in the business. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Rankaz13 wrote:jerry wrote:matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? That's not yet clear. For now, the info I have is that matatu SACCOs countrywide have been asked to submit their inventories to TLB. I'm told the TLB wants to compare the new registrations against the slots that had been allocated to the respective matatu SACCOs. I hear even as at today there are quite a number of "sharks" awaiting registration/TLB. We need to be cautious whatever that means! The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/27/2011 Posts: 518
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jerry wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:jerry wrote:matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? That's not yet clear. For now, the info I have is that matatu SACCOs countrywide have been asked to submit their inventories to TLB. I'm told the TLB wants to compare the new registrations against the slots that had been allocated to the respective matatu SACCOs. I hear even as at today there are quite a number of "sharks" awaiting registration/TLB. We need to be cautious whatever that means! True jerry. I have been told by the sacco board guys that the deadline for registration for 14 seaters is 31st dec. Mine arrives on 30th dec courtesy of papera (I bought it in early October). Guess my goose is cooked. Im racking my brains for plan B incase there will be no extension of registration. Life must go on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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Prime wrote:jerry wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:jerry wrote:matatuman wrote:Mine are shuttle operated. I started out as normal matatus but i almost commited murder. Drivers fleece you proper. Something i notice you haven't factored in your budget is a tracker. I suggest you go with Tramigo, gives you trip reports so you dont have to call your driver asking how many trips he has done. Its only 20k and saves you lots of headaches.
I haven't had the guts to use the auction yet by myself but i have been checking out Trade Haus Logistics (auction.japantradecar.com) and they seem the cheapest by far. Only charge you a flat fee of 90K yen per unit. That's like 100,000/=¡! Who takes care of JEVIC, marine Ins , de-registration...? Are we expecting 14 seaters continued registration for commuter service in 2014? That's not yet clear. For now, the info I have is that matatu SACCOs countrywide have been asked to submit their inventories to TLB. I'm told the TLB wants to compare the new registrations against the slots that had been allocated to the respective matatu SACCOs. I hear even as at today there are quite a number of "sharks" awaiting registration/TLB. We need to be cautious whatever that means! True jerry. I have been told by the sacco board guys that the deadline for registration for 14 seaters is 31st dec. Mine arrives on 30th dec courtesy of papera (I bought it in early October). Guess my goose is cooked. Im racking my brains for plan B incase there will be no extension of registration. Life must go on. @Prime: Easy, nobody is sure of the deadline or if there is any at all.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Very educative/inspiring thread just at the right time.
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