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This harrowing experience happens to a friend yesterday!!!!!
washiku
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:10:24 PM
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kamundu wrote:
So Sad. I no longer do cash over the counter withdrawals. Strictly mpesa or cheques


Exactly my point...I think we should start moving from these cash transactions.
tycho
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:14:54 PM
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washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
Every one needs to learn the criminal and his ways. Then one can learn how to best protect themselves. For example, one should learn how to look around, read people, criminal tactics, and most important, how to use information given by others.

Wisdom always protects; in whatever situation.


By the way, the last time I checked you were Joyful to know that you are a killer. How did that one go, finally?d'oh!


You should know how it's easy for me to identify other killers. It helps.

This person was beaten because he's a 'nice guy'. You're always robbed and stolen from because you are 'nice' and you think everyone ought to be nice.
washiku
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:20:48 PM
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tycho wrote:
washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
Every one needs to learn the criminal and his ways. Then one can learn how to best protect themselves. For example, one should learn how to look around, read people, criminal tactics, and most important, how to use information given by others.

Wisdom always protects; in whatever situation.


By the way, the last time I checked you were Joyful to know that you are a killer. How did that one go, finally?d'oh!


You should know how it's easy for me to identify other killers. It helps.

This person was beaten because he's a 'nice guy'. You're always robbed and stolen from because you are 'nice' and you think everyone ought to be nice.


Why do you kill when you do?

tycho
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:22:41 PM
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nakujua wrote:
madollar wrote:
tycho wrote:
Every one needs to learn the criminal and his ways. Then one can learn how to best protect themselves. For example, one should learn how to look around, read people, criminal tactics, and most important, how to use information given by others.

Wisdom always protects; in whatever situation.

WORD ! natuwache kufloss sana.Take this guy for example he visited two banks and a forex bureau may be also speaking on his expensive phone and other small small things the thugs observed that made him a target.

the coordination and execution of the above narrated event is too complex for a random pick up, and the brazen boldness involved when literally kidnapping the victim off a very busy street in middle of the day basically makes null any attempt to read or escape the criminals net.

hapo unahitaji equal force not wisdom.


First, remember that these might have been real cops, and that's probably their camouflage. You don't want to be a terrorism suspect also.

Plus, unless you can figure out their plan and defense 'your life' is in danger, and that's worth protecting.

A criminal always knows his victim. Does the victim know the criminal?

tycho
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:26:51 PM
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washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
Every one needs to learn the criminal and his ways. Then one can learn how to best protect themselves. For example, one should learn how to look around, read people, criminal tactics, and most important, how to use information given by others.

Wisdom always protects; in whatever situation.


By the way, the last time I checked you were Joyful to know that you are a killer. How did that one go, finally?d'oh!


You should know how it's easy for me to identify other killers. It helps.

This person was beaten because he's a 'nice guy'. You're always robbed and stolen from because you are 'nice' and you think everyone ought to be nice.


Why do you kill when you do?



Because preserving others often translates to fear of losing my ego and the things associated with it.
washiku
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:34:55 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
tycho wrote:
washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
Every one needs to learn the criminal and his ways. Then one can learn how to best protect themselves. For example, one should learn how to look around, read people, criminal tactics, and most important, how to use information given by others.

Wisdom always protects; in whatever situation.


By the way, the last time I checked you were Joyful to know that you are a killer. How did that one go, finally?d'oh!


You should know how it's easy for me to identify other killers. It helps.

This person was beaten because he's a 'nice guy'. You're always robbed and stolen from because you are 'nice' and you think everyone ought to be nice.


Why do you kill when you do?



Because preserving others often translates to fear of losing my ego and the things associated with it.


mchuuzi
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:38:22 PM
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Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad This has been a really bad trend My colleague went through a similar experience after leaving the banking hall at Barclay's Queen sway on a Saturday he was robbed 100k and this must be the same gang however they were in a Nissan B15 with govt reg.

Avoid over the counter transactions like the plague use Mpesa to move cash from your account to your phone for any large cash transactions use RTGS or your phone its expensive but better safe than sorry
FRM2011
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:54:18 PM
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This is scary, though there are too many similar incidents and all with a similar pattern.

Have you noticed these criminals succeed because our cops operate the same way ? If cops were obligated to identify themselves, notify you of the reason for arrest and allow you to contact family or lawyer, then thugs would find the going a bit tough. Throw in rogue cops, rogue tellers and there is only one way out, AVOID CASH.
mkeiyd
#39 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:21:02 PM
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Wa! wa! wa! This is very saddening.

@Impunity, Thanks for sharing,knowledge is power. Praise be to the Lord for saving your friend.

Where is that direct comm. line to the president? This is extremely disturbing.

Cashless transactions is the way to go even though there remains transactions that you find yourself having to carry good cash from point A to B.
mawinder
#40 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:19:12 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
There was once I wanted to withdraw a sizable amount of cash to buy a plot. The teller asked for sometime, took a while. She didn't need to go looking for the cash because she had it. I could see it.

I sensed something and immediately changed my request to a bankers cheque. What was shocking and most disturbing, was how she took time to try convince me to take cash. Of what concern was it to her?


Was she brown? What was her name again?
Thank you.


@impunity,Pole sana.You suspect she is the one who set you up?

Must be one of the Wanjikus who voted for the katiba.Hawa watu,I dont trust them.
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