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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Am asking this out of an article i read Quote: My husband's dirty secret turned out to be much dirtier than I could ever imagine...
So over the past few months I've noticed my husband sneaking out of the house at night, sometimes for hours at a time. I'm one of those people that fall asleep as soon as their head hits the pillow, so he obviously thinks I'm asleep, but one night I heard the baby crying and noticed he wasn't there. At first I thought he was sneaking out to see another woman, but it turns out it was worse than that, in my opinion anyway.
We had our first child in February this year, and he's been a really hands-on father. Always is there to take care of the baby despite having a full time job when I need a break and all that.
I don't know how else to really say what he's doing without it sounding completely insane (because it kind of is) but it turns out, when my husband goes out at night, all he does is go into the yard where the trash cans are, rummages around, and fishes out a dirty diaper from our child, opens it, and just stands there smelling it. It seems to only be the ones that our son has gone Number 2 in, because I've seen him toss back ones that presumably only have been peed in and look for a dirtier one. And then he just stands there, taking this deep contented breaths in of our child's excrement. For ages. The sad thing is, he looks so damn happy when he's doing it too. I've watched him from the window for weeks now, just standing out there, sniffing with this huge grin on his face, and then rummaging around for another.
The real icing on the cake was the other night when he came back to bed, once again thinking I was asleep. He must have got a bit too close to the diaper when he was sniffing our son's business, because when he got into bed with me I could smell something and opened my eyes a bit when I finally heard him snoring and it turns out he had a bit of poop on his nose. I felt so disgusted.
So I'm at a loss as to what I should do now. I love my husband but this freaks the hell out of me. Has this happened to anyone else before? Is it a fetish or something? I'm too scared to confront him but I know it needs to be done, and any advice would be great because, I mean, shit. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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murchr wrote:Mukiri wrote:This pervert is a disgusting thing. Yuck! No wonder he abhors religion! Akili yako ni ndogo sana weka email yako hapa so that i tell you what i think of you without disrespecting the republic of wazua, and Tutu must have been thinking of you when he said God knows no religion. You are a disgrace even to the one you say you serve, its your likes that he will tell...."i never knew you" When people are celebrating Christmas in sanctuaries, you can't wait kupakwa kinyesi. Even go as far as advertising your twisted fantasies. Shetani amekwingia hivi? Ati email! So that you can beg me for my sh*t?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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How we get to behave
I have found the thread 'matatizo obscene' frozen, but it has something 'nice'. So can I find a nice way of reintroducing @murchr's question?
Okay, let me put his question on more palatable terms; How does one 'acquire' behavior, and how does the mind develop? How does normal behavior arise?
I can imagine how behavior and disease are conjoined so that by altering behavior diseases can be cured. And here I am thinking of both overt and covert behavior.
Does 'abnormal' behavior cause panic? If it does why?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Thank you "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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I personally think that Admin is sticking her head in the sand. These tabias exist and having a reasoned discussion over them should be ok. The only thing to be avoided is the matusi between @Murchr and @mukiri Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The key is 'self understanding', and 'transitions', best considered 'multidimensionally'.
'Self understanding' is a system's control mechanism, and transition is a shift in systemic energy levels, say 'quantum levels'.
Birth, initiation, death, are transitions on both the communal and individual levels, but there are many other transitions that take place. Each transition affects the whole system and controls respond accordingly. Events become symbols, and symbol patterns higher symbols. Just like in language.
Normal behavior is behavior that doesn't cause 'transitions' in the status quo, whatever the status quo may be.
But since even in the family context the status quo is perceived differently only the minimum conditions for survival need to be met. Hence the individual being an intelligent system must respond to what is perceived. But since the perceptions differ, political power must be used to direct behavior in the family, communal and societal levels.
Even at the individual level behavior is politics. For example let's take the case of coprophilia. It's identified with anal regression. Regression means discomfort, disease with higher levels of transition which are caused, and cause the prevalent political pressure. That is, the conditions in the 'phallic stage' in a 'Freud like system' aren't comfortable and cause disease. Making the child to poop on himself and get sympathy and love and find the pleasure of equilibrium. It turns out that this may end up in sadomasochism.
So behavior is a language form that expresses what is uncomfortable to express in words because of fear and disease. And the language is dictated by the peculiar needs of any quantum state. And quantum states can equivalent but on different dimensions. Hence the possibility of regression.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Well...the reason that I asked the question in this thread is because someone mentioned coprophylia as a possible reason why the man in the story was behaving in a weird or bizarre manner. and after enough google and youtube explainations I dint understand what happens to the brain for one to behave in this way. Is there a stimuli that is released in the brain that causes some form of mental damage as in the case of alcoholism or is it just a normal behavior that a person just develops. I also understand that pregnant women develop a liking of weird smells while expecting while others cant stand any smell...is it the same thing? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Well...the reason that I asked the question in this thread is because someone mentioned coprophylia as a possible reason why the man in the story was behaving in a weird or bizarre manner. and after enough google and youtube explainations I dint understand what happens to the brain for one to behave in this way. Is there a stimuli that is released in the brain that causes some form of mental damage as in the case of alcoholism or is it just a normal behavior that a person just develops. I also understand that pregnant women develop a liking of weird smells while expecting while others cant stand any smell...is it the same thing? Any normal behavior can translate into 'mental damage' if repeated like in the case of alcoholism. It's much like what happens when you wear the same pair of shoes through the year. Brain activity involves energic events. Pregnancy is a transition, and depending on symbols encountered before and prevailing conditions merge to form a resultant behavior that offers equilibrium. For example, fear that the husband is 'distant' may lead to grasping in the form of keeping a shirt with the man's sweat. But like when understanding a text, one should be aware that though behavior patterns follow a certain motif, actual behavior can only be interpreted by active investigation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Well...the reason that I asked the question in this thread is because someone mentioned coprophylia as a possible reason why the man in the story was behaving in a weird or bizarre manner. and after enough google and youtube explainations I dint understand what happens to the brain for one to behave in this way. Is there a stimuli that is released in the brain that causes some form of mental damage as in the case of alcoholism or is it just a normal behavior that a person just develops. I also understand that pregnant women develop a liking of weird smells while expecting while others cant stand any smell...is it the same thing? Any normal behavior can translate into 'mental damage' if repeated like in the case of alcoholism. It's much like what happens when you wear the same pair of shoes through the year. Brain activity involves energic events. Pregnancy is a transition, and depending on symbols encountered before and prevailing conditions merge to form a resultant behavior that offers equilibrium. For example, fear that the husband is 'distant' may lead to grasping in the form of keeping a shirt with the man's sweat. But like when understanding a text, one should be aware that though behavior patterns follow a certain motif, actual behavior can only be interpreted by active investigation. Asante "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Well...the reason that I asked the question in this thread is because someone mentioned coprophylia as a possible reason why the man in the story was behaving in a weird or bizarre manner. and after enough google and youtube explainations I dint understand what happens to the brain for one to behave in this way. Is there a stimuli that is released in the brain that causes some form of mental damage as in the case of alcoholism or is it just a normal behavior that a person just develops. I also understand that pregnant women develop a liking of weird smells while expecting while others cant stand any smell...is it the same thing? Any normal behavior can translate into 'mental damage' if repeated like in the case of alcoholism. It's much like what happens when you wear the same pair of shoes through the year. Brain activity involves energic events. Pregnancy is a transition, and depending on symbols encountered before and prevailing conditions merge to form a resultant behavior that offers equilibrium. For example, fear that the husband is 'distant' may lead to grasping in the form of keeping a shirt with the man's sweat. But like when understanding a text, one should be aware that though behavior patterns follow a certain motif, actual behavior can only be interpreted by active investigation. Asante Karibu. A good starting point on studying behavior patterns would Roy Hazelwood's 'the evil that men do'. The more you learn to profile people, and yourself, the more it becomes easy to decipher how we behave. In the end, one discovers that behavioral science has been largely left untapped. And many families and organizations incur heavy losses due to 'abnormal' or inappropriate behavior.
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