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Co-operative Bank Kenya 2.6bn insider trading scandal
Siringi
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:06:11 AM
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hmm
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
muganda
#2 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:18:11 AM
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What is wrong with this name Cooperative? Judging by recent events in UK and now in Kenya, it is just an antithesis.

This report by Mars Group Kenya puts down the facts of what has been known by Coop staff and market operatives for quite some time:
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/b...independent-report-2012/

1. Apr 2007 saw bank directors and senior staff acquire Class B shares with over 50% sold to directors and Mr. Gideon Muriuki as key beneficiary, just before the IPO.

2. The shares were infact financed by loans from same institution and related SACCO, and issued in a manner to obtain connivance from senior staff, including dividends.


But what to do, Nairobi Securities Exchange is a stuffed old boys club. Can they really chastise their member - Kingdom Securities? At first glance, this Kingdom is definitely one of this world, not the next?

Let us accept and move on.
Share price past Friday: 18.10


murchr
#3 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:20:32 AM
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Is it wrong for an MD to buy shares? Id be worried if he sold.Remember the monkey story?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkeiyd
#4 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:26:53 AM
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Siringi wrote:
hmm



Kenya yetu ni nchi ya ajabu!!!

Sing along if you may.
Realtreaty
#5 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:18:10 AM
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Quite an old story that is history. Does it mean if you wetted the bed as a baby you still wet it as a grown up? Trade bank was there and I was made to understand you could get an overdraft without making any deposit at start. But this was mere lies. Mars wanted to be the lead consultant for the coop bank but failed and resulted in this messy job.
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Pesa Nane
#6 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:00:37 PM
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murchr wrote:
Is it wrong for an MD to buy shares? Id be worried if he sold.Remember the monkey story?

Seriously?? Insider trading!! Read full report HERE Sad
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
FRM2011
#7 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:46:55 PM
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Poor Mars group guys; its not called insider trading, its called ESOP. This issue has been raised so many times by so many people questioning how coop bank's top mgt became instant millionaires after the ipo, and the answer has always been the same; ESOP.

The same happened to Equity bank before the listing.
murchr
#8 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:07:50 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
murchr wrote:
Is it wrong for an MD to buy shares? Id be worried if he sold.Remember the monkey story?

Seriously?? Insider trading!! Read full report HERE Sad


Pesa Nane insider trading is when an employee buys/sells a stock when they know the results in the book either to cash in or to avoid a loss. ESOP is a benefits program that enables employees to buy shares at discounted prices before listing or when trading. Its not illegal but in this case it "could" have been deemed immoral.

Dont get carried away by these alarmist NGO's
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#9 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:31:49 PM
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Having done both, I can discuss with authority.. Insider trading is what I do on exchange bar. ESOP ni kitu halali

xyzee
#10 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:11:44 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Poor Mars group guys; its not called insider trading, its called ESOP. This issue has been raised so many times by so many people questioning how coop bank's top mgt became instant millionaires after the ipo, and the answer has always been the same; ESOP.

The same happened to Equity bank before the listing.


ESOP? If this deal was above board all staff should have been allowed to buy the shares at 100 bob for 100 shares, and not compeled to buy shares at the IPO at 9 bob per share.
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