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whats the place of alcohol in christianity/islam?
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#51 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 12:08:44 AM
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Zanze wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:


@Zanze show me where I've said all muslims follow everything Quran says.



I was referring to your antagonizing rants on multiple threads. There are ways to respectfully share opposing thoughts but insulting or belittling beliefs that people hold dear does nothing but create hatred.

I agree with you @ Zanze. On matters religion,this guy has turned himself into a militant .Yake ni WBV (wazua based violence)
I am happy
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#52 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 12:54:12 AM
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Sansa wrote:

Please direct us so that we can be as informed.


It's true the Greek definition of wine takes two definitions. Wine the mocker and wine the grape juice.The verses are:-

Joel 1:10 says "The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth." (This refers to grapes dried up in the fields which could not be intoxicating.)

Isaiah 65:8 says "Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster,and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all." (Alcoholic wine in the cluster? No, the juice of the grape while in the cluster could not be intoxicating.)

Jeremiah 48:33 says "And joy and gladness is taken from the plentiful field, and from the land of Moab; and I have caused wine to fail from the wine presses: none shall tread with shouting; their shouting shall be no shouting." (The wine of fresh squeezed grapes coming out of the winepress is grape juice and could not be fermented.) Certainly other passages could be considered, but these are sufficient to illustrate that the word "wine" can refer to alcoholic wine or simply grape juice.
Swenani
#53 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:35:46 AM
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So what is/was the conclusion on this thread
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
McReggae
#54 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:54:15 AM
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Swenani wrote:
So what is/was the conclusion on this thread


Chasing the shadows!!!
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wilyum
#55 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:58:48 AM
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Swenani wrote:
So what is/was the conclusion on this thread


swenani. dont look for conclusion,read,acquire the knowledge,make decision for urself and ignore what you feel doesnt make any sense to you
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#56 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 12:01:03 PM
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Swenani wrote:
So what is/was the conclusion on this thread

we cannot agree.
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#57 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 1:20:53 PM
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wilyum wrote:
Swenani wrote:
So what is/was the conclusion on this thread


swenani. dont look for conclusion,read,acquire the knowledge,make decision for urself and ignore what you feel doesnt make any sense to you


You have unknowingly concluded the threadApplause Applause
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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