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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
SittingPretty
#4481 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2013 5:49:54 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Sellers please get more aggressive!!

We need safcom at 10.20 and CIC at 5.00.


NSE 20down to 5072.87
Well well, the excitement is over. It doesnt look like people are going for the holidays....
Timely advice is as lovely as golden apples in a silver basket. Proverbs 25:11
YoungMulla
#4482 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2013 10:37:12 PM
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SittingPretty wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Sellers please get more aggressive!!

We need safcom at 10.20 and CIC at 5.00.


NSE 20down to 5072.87
Well well, the excitement is over. It doesnt look like people are going for the holidays....


@SP - no holidaying just yet, someone has to ride the remaining bulls
Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
murchr
#4483 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2013 10:41:17 PM
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murchr on Nov 18th wrote:
mnunuzi wrote:
murchr wrote:
BGL wrote:
YoungMulla wrote:
cnn wrote:
YoungMulla wrote:
Okay, WTH just happened at CARB??? Someone... anyone ...?

ex-BONUS,ex-SPLIT


Salaale, here am sure some guys have lost xmas savings.
@cnn - do you expect a further drop or some recovery from tommorow?


For every share you had by friday 15th, YOU will have 7.5 shares on Dec 10th.


Wait a minute...I thought its 1 for every 5 held as of 15th so going by the price on friday - 230/- the current price would have been 46/- then the bonus comes in later in dec? Am I wrong?


True imho, its was a 1:5 split. It means more liquidity, affordable to more investors and they tend to think they can buy it cheaper. Fundamentally I think its a good dip buy


I think this counter will behave like ARM, waiting to see how the going is tomorrow am more interested in the bonus


smile
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#4484 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:05:34 AM
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Yesterday some counters bottomed.If you look at the volumes trading and the time of the year,you can only stay put for new years optimism.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Mukiri
#4485 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:25:47 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Yesterday some counters bottomed.If you look at the volumes trading and the time of the year,you can only stay put for new years optimism.

Which counters?

Proverbs 19:21
King G
#4486 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:34:23 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Yesterday some counters bottomed.If you look at the volumes trading and the time of the year,you can only stay put for new years optimism.

Which counters?


Britam, CFC Stanbic, Pan Africa Ins. CFC Insurance, CIC
Thieves
mypesa
#4487 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:55:38 PM
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Unlike previous december months there seems to be few RED counters .its UP UP for majority of the counters
Good signs that 2014 may be a very good year
Even In The Most Severe Drought In The Jungle Lions Will Never Feed On Grass.
mlennyma
#4488 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:09:25 PM
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This market will surprise everybody even uhuru kenyatta the preso,look at the volumes trading when we expect slow down on dec.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#4489 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:41:23 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This market will surprise everybody even uhuru kenyatta the preso,look at the volumes trading when we expect slow down on dec.


Im not selling anything for a while, all counters ive sold this year have gone up. even obiero has experienced this.

Hold your good(undervalued/fairly valued) counters people.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
S.Mutaga III
#4490 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:00:33 PM
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This year was ideal for any fund manager who used an event-driven strategy to invest in nse. Access Kenya, Rea Vipingo looming, Carbacid split, Athi River Mining split all made money. I might employ that strategy next year...a purely event-driven strategy. The only event I hope not to cash in on is that which results in suspension of trading kama Access na Rea Vipingo.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
murchr
#4491 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:39:19 PM
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Rich says All Share and the NSE20 to rise 5% before January
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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jerry
#4492 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:40:40 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
This year was ideal for any fund manager who used an event-driven strategy to invest in nse. Access Kenya, Rea Vipingo looming, Carbacid split, Athi River Mining split all made money. I might employ that strategy next year...a purely event-driven strategy. The only event I hope not to cash in on is that which results in suspension of trading kama Access na Rea Vipingo.

I'm with you on this NEW strategy.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
FUNKY
#4493 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:13:01 PM
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Turnover rose to Kes.852M from the previous session’s Kes.465M, the number of shares traded stood at 31M against 13M posted yesterday.
The NSE 20 Share Index was up 3.60 points to stand at 5076.47.
All share Index (NASI) shed 0.18 points to stand at 140.66
YoungMulla
#4494 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:40:46 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
Turnover rose to Kes.852M from the previous session’s Kes.465M, the number of shares traded stood at 31M against 13M posted yesterday.
The NSE 20 Share Index was up 3.60 points to stand at 5076.47.
All share Index (NASI) shed 0.18 points to stand at 140.66


Have foreign investors re-entered the market or is it locals taking over the baton?I tend to think its the latter. Any insights??
Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
murchr
#4495 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:08:39 PM
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YoungMulla wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Turnover rose to Kes.852M from the previous session’s Kes.465M, the number of shares traded stood at 31M against 13M posted yesterday.
The NSE 20 Share Index was up 3.60 points to stand at 5076.47.
All share Index (NASI) shed 0.18 points to stand at 140.66


Have foreign investors re-entered the market or is it locals taking over the baton?I tend to think its the latter. Any insights??


They have never left the market they are buying and selling to each other
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#4496 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:32:40 PM
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Some 36M shares valued at Kes.690M were traded in 2,000 deals, down from 29M shares that were valued at Kes.751M posted yesterday.

The NSE 20 Share Index was down 0.74% or 37.49 points to stand at 5005.45.
All Share Index (NASI) shed 1.95 points to stand at 137.91.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Fyatu
#4497 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:38:03 PM
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the pattern indicates that we are headed to sub-5000 Drool
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Cde Monomotapa
#4498 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:06:10 PM
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murchr wrote:
YoungMulla wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Turnover rose to Kes.852M from the previous session’s Kes.465M, the number of shares traded stood at 31M against 13M posted yesterday.
The NSE 20 Share Index was up 3.60 points to stand at 5076.47.
All share Index (NASI) shed 0.18 points to stand at 140.66


Have foreign investors re-entered the market or is it locals taking over the baton?I tend to think its the latter. Any insights??


They have never left the market they are buying and selling to each other


Made the same observation as @murchr 'right-to-left'
Cde Monomotapa
#4499 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:02:09 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
murchr wrote:
YoungMulla wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Turnover rose to Kes.852M from the previous session’s Kes.465M, the number of shares traded stood at 31M against 13M posted yesterday.
The NSE 20 Share Index was up 3.60 points to stand at 5076.47.
All share Index (NASI) shed 0.18 points to stand at 140.66


Have foreign investors re-entered the market or is it locals taking over the baton?I tend to think its the latter. Any insights??


They have never left the market they are buying and selling to each other


Made the same observation as @murchr 'right-to-left'


Furthermore, with the NSSF reforms it is expected that the country's capital & savings base will expand. Working as planned then we can drive the markets a lot more with foreign capital playing a complimentary role. Let's see.
hisah
#4500 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 8:00:00 AM
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Profit taking has been quite shallow than I expected esp on mpesa bank, simba, eabl, bamburi & member. 4900 will likely stall the slide.

Laggards kk, kq, nbk & kplc are floating as expected. MSC somehow is still above 3/- but the sugar industry is as disordered as it gets at the moment.

@aguy - tps is worth a shot for recovery, but illiquid counter. Less riskier than kq for those without hearts of steel to board the kq mbus...

The next solid bull boost is the eurobond float. If it happens when NSE20 is above 5500, I'd expect 6000 and the all time high level @6161 to be tested... By then a lot of crappy stocks will be floating high. The idea is to avoid that crappy corner in case of a shakeout event... Just like 5000, at 6k level the selling pressure will be solid resisting bulls for a while...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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