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http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/hshhi8z/-/index.htmlIt is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt... -Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Why in God's name are fathers raping their own daughters? What's the root cause of this behaviour? Is it drugs. And why are parents leaving young children at home unattended and vulnerable to attack?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Pornography and drunkenness is never far from such
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:Pornography and drunkenness is never far from such Don't we preach these vices? We have lost sight of where to put boundary between love and responsibility. We love the robber, we love the killer, we love the fornicator, we love the adulterer and his mpango wa kando, we love the rapist, now we love the defiler and incest perpetrator! Now we are pointing fingers at the society, when it has become so complacant. Who are the society? It is made up of people, who love everybody. We preach these things to the people, the society, then turn around and complain
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Pornography and drunkenness is never far from such Don't we preach these vices? We have lost sight of where to put boundary between love and responsibility. We love the robber, we love the killer, we love the fornicator, we love the adulterer and his mpango wa kando, we love the rapist, now we love the defiler and incest perpetrator! Now we are pointing fingers at the society, when it has become so complacant. Who are the society? It is made up of people, who love everybody. We preach these things to the people, the society, then turn around and complain (Alphdoti, I am doing certain studies that I am looking forward to share with you later.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Human power has sex and sexuality as its hammer. When Man is powerful and noble, human sexuality, whatever the symbols used, is also powerful and noble.
But when Man is debased, then grumbling and anger, and indignation and hate will reign, and sex will bear these prints.
Some will say you must be repressive, but that's only self deception. Hypocrisy.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Human power has sex and sexuality as its hammer. When Man is powerful and noble, human sexuality, whatever the symbols used, is also powerful and noble.
But when Man is debased, then grumbling and anger, and indignation and hate will reign, and sex will bear these prints.
Some will say you must be repressive, but that's only self deception. Hypocrisy. Mardi Gras?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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All those stories are indeed true. I've personally worked in Busia and its environs. Sadly, Butula is one of the most backward places I've ever been. Wife inheritance is still rampant, people don't use condoms hence high HIV prevalence, the people are quite amorous, the place has high poverty index yet the people live in fertile lands, the number of young kids taking care of their parents is very high because a good number of them are orphaned at a young age, a guy working in Nairobi can easily marry a village girl even without meeting her (all that the guy needs to do is to send his photo to relas back there then the girl is shipped to nrb), etc.
Nevertheless, the night life in Busia is awesome -especially the UG side. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@muriel I can add to you some more input for your MBA thesis paper... I'm generous with information.
First, let me pre-empt those who want to argue, by giving some statistics. There is a reasearch in South Africa showing that 8% of Whites, commit incest with their own daughters. 13% of Americans are committing incest with their own daughters. I told you before about a psychiatrist Dr. Vernon Jones who carried out a research on young children, certain school children to whom certain stories were read to them. He said that these stories made slight but permanent changes in character. He said that the type of story that you read, will create the type of mentality that you have. If you read junky stuff, your mind will become junky, you eat chunky food, your body will be chunky.
So, nowadays punishment shifted to being applied in secrecy, in dangions, in prisons, nobody sees it, it is only a statistics in the paper so and so was executed for a certain crime. Then it does not have the deterrent effects that it would if it had been done in public.
When it comes to the issue of fornication, adultery and incest, and the Western attitude has taken over. They say the methods are outdated, they say it is outdated to do this in these times. The reasons for this is that there has a been a change in moral standards in the Western countries. They no longer see these things as immoral. They think FGM is immoral. But fornication, adultery, rape and incest is not! Infact to them the president himself of the country, the presidents of these countries are known for adultery and fornication. The society accepts it, by electing them knowingly.
I mean go back 30 years ago, this was not acceptable that a president or prime minister could be elected knowing that he does this kidn of thing. However, in our time, with the change in the morality of the society, this has become acceptable.
So naturally, in a soceity where adultery and fornication have become norms, nobody questions it, it is called barbaric. However, it is no longer a crime, because they say it is consenting adults. This is the principle, which governs the "rightness" and "wrongness" of sexual relations. As long as they are consenting adults then the society has no business to punish them. According to Western culture, where the society is secular which means religion has no place in the applicaiton of law.
So with kind of an attitude, where we are evolving things, then they say there is no need to punish enyone. Of course there are peole in the West who are sadden, sicked, by this attitude. This is the system as potrayed by the media, supported by international political systems. Whether it is true the UN or wherever, these attitudes are being promoted, and they are penetrating other wountries.
You see now there are resistance to the aplication of law for this kind of crimes.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:@muriel I can add to you some more input for your MBA thesis paper... I'm generous with information.
First, let me pre-empt those who want to argue, by giving some statistics. There is a reasearch in South Africa showing that 8% of Whites, commit incest with their own daughters. 13% of Americans are committing incest with their own daughters. I told you before about a psychiatrist Dr. Vernon Jones who carried out a research on young children, certain school children to whom certain stories were read to them. He said that these stories made slight but permanent changes in character. He said that the type of story that you read, will create the type of mentality that you have. If you read junky stuff, your mind will become junky, you eat chunky food, your body will be chunky.
So, nowadays punishment shifted to being applied in secrecy, in dangions, in prisons, nobody sees it, it is only a statistics in the paper so and so was executed for a certain crime. Then it does not have the deterrent effects that it would if it had been done in public.
When it comes to the issue of fornication, adultery and incest, and the Western attitude has taken over. They say the methods are outdated, they say it is outdated to do this in these times. The reasons for this is that there has a been a change in moral standards in the Western countries. They no longer see these things as immoral. They think FGM is immoral. But fornication, adultery, rape and incest is not! Infact to them the president himself of the country, the presidents of these countries are known for adultery and fornication. The society accepts it, by electing them knowingly.
I mean go back 30 years ago, this was not acceptable that a president or prime minister could be elected knowing that he does this kidn of thing. However, in our time, with the change in the morality of the society, this has become acceptable.
So naturally, in a soceity where adultery and fornication have become norms, nobody questions it, it is called barbaric. However, it is no longer a crime, because they say it is consenting adults. This is the principle, which governs the "rightness" and "wrongness" of sexual relations. As long as they are consenting adults then the society has no business to punish them. According to Western culture, where the society is secular which means religion has no place in the applicaiton of law.
So with kind of an attitude, where we are evolving things, then they say there is no need to punish enyone. Of course there are peole in the West who are sadden, sicked, by this attitude. This is the system as potrayed by the media, supported by international political systems. Whether it is true the UN or wherever, these attitudes are being promoted, and they are penetrating other wountries.
You see now there are resistance to the aplication of law for this kind of crimes. Ahhhh. Yes.
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