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Kikuyus, Please Come (Here)
simonkabz
#131 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 10:49:28 AM
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Lol! washiku don't go there hahaha! I reminisce with lots of nostalgia! Witute Guthoma by Fred K Kago is the little booklet. "hihi ini ti ihiu", "moko ma komo"
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washiku
#132 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 10:55:10 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Lol! washiku don't go there hahaha! I reminisce with lots of nostalgia! Witute Guthoma by Fred K Kago is the little booklet. "hihi ini ti ihiu", "moko ma komo"


Applause Applause Applause Umeguza palipo...
Njung'e
#133 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 10:58:07 AM
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Njomo is a prominent Gikuyu word/name.....Jomo must have been derived.

@Thimioni,
Kago was a very good writer but i believe Gakaara wa Wanjau (Gakaara press),was the best of them all.Anyone who knows where i can get his works?.
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Lolest!
#134 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 11:02:44 AM
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washiku wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Lol! washiku don't go there hahaha! I reminisce with lots of nostalgia! Witute Guthoma by Fred K Kago is the little booklet. "hihi ini ti ihiu", "moko ma komo"


Applause Applause Applause Umeguza palipo...

Cege rehe itete
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Njung'e
#135 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 11:08:00 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
washiku wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Lol! washiku don't go there hahaha! I reminisce with lots of nostalgia! Witute Guthoma by Fred K Kago is the little booklet. "hihi ini ti ihiu", "moko ma komo"


Applause Applause Applause Umeguza palipo...

Cege rehe itete


Was it?.....I remember,"Cege rehe gitete"
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Rankaz13
#136 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 11:21:46 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
Most kikuyu words are similar to xhoha, swahili and rwandese eg Ngombe, kuku, maji.
The interahamwe in rwandese is directly translated to turihamwe in kikuyu, meaning we are together.
The Bostwana/setswana language, a cow is ngombe, meat is nyama, chicken is kuku,water is metsi ,similar to kikuyu.


Interahamwe in Kinyarwanda means those who fight together. Sounds like Ita ri hamwe in Gikuyu. When they count, you'd think you're in Wakulima. 50 is mirongo itanu, 100 is Ijana(j is like the French one here), 200 magana bibiri, 500 magana atanu, 600 magana atandatu..etc

The Mzungu studied the Gikuyu and their cousins around the mountain and concluded that they belong to one group the Bantu(from Abantu meaning people or watu or Andu in some Bantu dialects)

If the Bantu have similar words even with cousins thousands of kms away, why isn't the same case applying for Nilotes?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I remember listening to Radio Rwanda on shortwave radio back in the day in the village. The language sounded eerily familiar. I still recall how they'd describe 30 as mirongo itatu, or makumi tatu when speaking in Swahili.

Speaking of which, anybody noticed how Kiswahili itself has so many different dialects? Most are so different from our 'textbook Kiswahili' that a local is easily able to identify a guy from 'bara'. I have had the opportunity to interact with some from North Coast, close to the Somalia border, where they replace v with z, thus viatu becomes ziatu, viazi becomes ziazi; and also replace ch with t, thus chupa becomes tupa, etc.
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mukiha
#137 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 4:51:15 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Jomo?


Not a Kikuyu name. Corruption of Johnstone
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mukiha
#138 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 4:53:31 PM
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During my class one days deep inside Mŭrang'a the order of the vowels was: a,e,i,ĩ,o,u,ŭ. I remember singing that repeatedly in class.
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Siringi
#139 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 5:32:04 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
washiku wrote:
This is what my lower sch teacher wrote on the board...and the rest was a combination picked from either of this(I might have jumped some)...By the way I never forgot to read Kikuyu...when in Shags, I read for them a Kikuyu Bible fluently. I even have a Kikuyu Bible...I therefore thought its a simple language until I went through this thread. I didnt know it was such a complex language.

a,e,i,o,u,ĩ,ŭ. Eg aaaiiii..

ba,be,bi,bo,bu,bĩ,bŭ. Eg baba

ca,ce,ci,co,cu,cĩ,cŭ. Eg cucu

da,de,di,do,du,dĩ,dŭ. Eg

ga,ge,gi,go,gu,gĩ,gŭ.

ha,he,hi,ho,hu,hĩ,hŭ.

ja,je,ji,jo,ju,jĩ,jŭ.

ka,ke,ki,ko,ku,kĩ,kŭ.

ma,me,mi,mo,mu,mĩ,mŭ.

na,ne,ni,no,nu,nĩ,nŭ.

ra,re,ri,ro,ru,rĩ,rŭ.

ta,te,ti,to,tu,tĩ,tŭ.

wa,we,wi,wo,wu,wĩ,wŭ.

ya,ye,yi,yo,yu,yĩ,yŭ.

there are others that involves addition of n or m before some of the above

nda,nde,ndi,ndo,ndu,ndĩ,ndŭ. Eg Nduma

mba,mbe,mbi,mbo,mbu,mbĩ,mbŭ. Eg Mbembe

nja, nje,nji,njo,nju,njĩ,njŭ. Eg Njururi



hakuna kitu kama jajejijoju.....J doesn't stand alone at least in th e alphabet that I was taught. Refer to Clown's post. In fact, no kikuyu name has a stand alone J, but NJ eg, Wanja, Wanjau, Njau, Njarana, Njaramba...as for the spoken version hehehe


There's no da de di do du dì dù either. "d" only appears in "nd"

Ndùngù, Nduta, Ndiang'ui, ndùma,nduma, ndundu,
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Siringi
#140 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2013 6:03:20 PM
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tassia wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
jguru wrote:
I have a question.

If Gikuyu was derived from Kamba, how then is it that a person who speaks in the tongue cannot easily comprehend a conversation in Kamba, yet that person can comprehend a conversation in other Bantu languages (Meru, Embu, Kisii, Buganda, Kinyarwanda etc)?

German, Afrikaans, Dutch and English have similarities because they belong to the same language family.

aiiii?

Kikamba is close to Kikuyu. So close that someone who speaks the Kikuyu language can guess a lot of what the Wakamba are saying. The words are just easier or with v sound in place of f sound.

e.g

Kikuyu Kikamba
Witagwo atia Witawa ata
Ndiraigua toro Niiwa too
Njau Nza
Watinda atia? Watinda ata
Wanja Wanza

Some names are also shared without varying pronunciation e.g. Muthama, Munyaka



I agree. But Embu might be the closest language to Kikuyu followed by Kikamba. But I find that language spoken in Rwanda, I guess it's Kinyarwanda closer to Kikuyu than any other language spoken in Kenya especially the counting of numbers.


kisii is very close to kikuyu. sample this:

gikuyu vs ekegusii

tiga vs tiga
toro vs toro
rora vs rora
maitho vs amaiso
mutwe vs motwe
kanua vs monua
mirongo vs merongo
igùrù vs igoro
nyùngù vs nyongo
kùira vs koira
gùkìa vs gokia
ùtùko vs b otuko

most importantly what the two hold dearest

MUGUNDA Vs MOGONDO
the list is endless
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