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streetwise
#21 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:17:59 AM
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The saving outweigh any of those things guys are going to court about...including If I was told the new rail will save a single life. I would build it.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:33:06 AM
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streetwise wrote:
The saving outweigh any of those things guys are going to court about...including If I was told the new rail will save a single life. I would build it.


But is it true that international standard cost for building a kilometre of railway is Kshs.170M while the chinese are quotating over Kshs.500Million per kilometre?
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#23 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:40:09 AM
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The kenyan section of the railway line will cost ksh.609 billion.
The first train will run in december 2016.
There will be no intersections with roads.
$1.8 B to be spent on 56 locomotives,1,600 wagons,40 coaches.
There will also be a fiber optic cable along the line
Passenger train will run at a speed of 120km/hr and 80km/h for cargo
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#24 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:57:12 AM
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If this comes to realization, then the UHURUTO gaaament is serious enough and this will surely earn them my sympathy.

RINK HAPA.


If the project goes through,it will mean death to the trucking companies.

Talk about bad timing the owner of buzeki has just sold molo milk to brookside to concentrate on his trucking business infact he intends to double the number of trucks
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#25 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:58:00 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
The kenyan section of the railway line will cost ksh.609 billion.
The first train will run in december 2016.
There will be no intersections with roads.
$1.8 B to be spent on 56 locomotives,1,600 wagons,40 coaches.
There will also be a fiber optic cable along the line
Passenger train will run at a speed of 120km/hr and 80km/h for cargo


So will this be a separate railway line from the current one?
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#26 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:23:53 PM
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Manyala wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The kenyan section of the railway line will cost ksh.609 billion.
The first train will run in december 2016.
There will be no intersections with roads.
$1.8 B to be spent on 56 locomotives,1,600 wagons,40 coaches.
There will also be a fiber optic cable along the line
Passenger train will run at a speed of 120km/hr and 80km/h for cargo


So will this be a separate railway line from the current one?

Yes it is separate from the current line
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Fyatu
#27 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:27:48 PM
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#28 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:48:23 PM
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How is Transcentury reacting to the news? RVR will come under immense pressure once this Railway is done. People will prefer to use the new Railway than the slow RVR line.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:30:18 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
How is Transcentury reacting to the news? RVR will come under immense pressure once this Railway is done. People will prefer to use the new Railway than the slow RVR line.


The answer is right here: RINK

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#30 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:45:57 PM
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Just to make things clear....Kenya Railways will own the track (the railway itself) and private investors will own the rolling stock(the trains).

It is all business. RVR has an upper hand.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:50:31 PM
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Swenani wrote:
streetwise wrote:
The saving outweigh any of those things guys are going to court about...including If I was told the new rail will save a single life. I would build it.


But is it true that international standard cost for building a kilometre of railway is Kshs.170M while the chinese are quotating over Kshs.500Million per kilometre?



What is the source off this figures (170 vs 500)
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#32 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:51:20 PM
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don't be surprised to see a buzeki locomotive or a coast pekee passenger train
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#33 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:02:26 PM
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Aiii UK no need to bash Wazungu for building the 1889 railway.
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#34 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:06:53 PM
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tomtom wrote:
Swenani wrote:
streetwise wrote:
The saving outweigh any of those things guys are going to court about...including If I was told the new rail will save a single life. I would build it.


But is it true that international standard cost for building a kilometre of railway is Kshs.170M while the chinese are quotating over Kshs.500Million per kilometre?



What is the source off this figures (170 vs 500)


Source ni magazetini
"All the resources necessary for the successful project implementation, including personnel and finances have been mobilized,” said Liu. The litigants argued in court that the contract is too high as the price unit is pegged at US$6 million (Sh510 million) per kilometer compared to the international standard of $2 million (Sh170 million) per kilometer. They said this was an “obstructive waste of public funds”. - See more at: http://the-star.co.ke/ne...ash.Nm1lSMrb.dpuf"

http://the-star.co.ke/ne...on-sues-stop-new-railway
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#35 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:49:11 PM
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#36 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:49:36 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Just to make things clear....Kenya Railways will own the track (the railway itself) and private investors will own the rolling stock(the trains).

It is all business. RVR has an upper hand.


The China deal comes with 56 locomotives. Who will own these?
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#37 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 4:03:39 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Just to make things clear....Kenya Railways will own the track (the railway itself) and private investors will own the rolling stock(the trains).

It is all business. RVR has an upper hand.


Aha. Reminds me if the story of Virgin Rail and the bitter wars they fought with the then British railways over standards and quality. Hopefully we can avoid the same.
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Fyatu
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 4:43:20 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Just to make things clear....Kenya Railways will own the track (the railway itself) and private investors will own the rolling stock(the trains).

It is all business. RVR has an upper hand.


The China deal comes with 56 locomotives. Who will own these?



These will be owned by Kenya railways,...i suggest you forrow this people RINK

RVR are not fools to invest on more locomotives RINK
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tomtom
#39 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 5:56:20 PM
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Swenani wrote:
tomtom wrote:
Swenani wrote:
[quote=streetwise]The saving outweigh any of those things guys are going to court about...including If I was told the new rail will save a single life. I would build it.


But is it true that international standard cost for building a kilometre of railway is Kshs.170M while the chinese are quotating over Kshs.500Million per kilometre?



What is the source off this figures (170 vs 500)


Source ni magazetini
"All the resources necessary for the successful project implementation, including personnel and finances have been mobilized,” said Liu. The litigants argued in court that the contract is too high as the price unit is pegged at US$6 million (Sh510 million) per kilometer compared to the international standard of $2 million (Sh170 million) per kilometer. They said this was an “obstructive waste of public funds”. - See more at: http://the-star.co.ke/ne...ash.Nm1lSMrb.dpuf"

http://the-star.co.ke/ne...n-sues-stop-new-railway[/quote]

Ah I see.

However I still doubt the dock union intentions. I have seen that $2 million figure before but it was the lower limit not the international standard.
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#40 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:21:48 PM
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let the construction begin. I want to see the first koroga take place and know that these guys are serious. on the flip side I am sure Tanzania are envious regretting why they didn't come on board.
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