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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2012 Posts: 257
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Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? Convert / factor in a safe room in the house during construction where you and your family get in as you call in for help. The room should have reinforced walls to withstand high calibre bullets the door should be bulletproof, oxygen mask in case they decide to smoke you out and lastly equip it with fire fighting equipments.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? @Mukiri, kama security company did not manage to contain the attack, sembuse the neighbours... Not safe at all....and now new of cops held hostage in west pokot....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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nostoppingthis wrote:Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? @Mukiri, kama security company did not manage to contain the attack, sembuse the neighbours... Not safe at all....and now new of cops held hostage in west pokot....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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nostoppingthis wrote:Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? @Mukiri, kama security company did not manage to contain the attack, sembuse the neighbours... Not safe at all....and now new of cops held hostage in west pokot....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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tycho wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? @Mukiri, kama security company did not manage to contain the attack, sembuse the neighbours... Not safe at all....and now new of cops held hostage in west pokot.... It is police/ex police/army that steal. Huwezi pambana na watu kama hao COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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nostoppingthis wrote:Mukiri wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:maka wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sirkal saidia tafasari, iko mbaya sana saidi.... RINK That link is not credible.Were the guards who guard those residences killed?Most of those houses have alarms,cctvs etc and belong to who is who.Karen is not Umoja. The thugs normally cut through the fence huko nyuma...like in this sad case in Runda. Daily Nation: Australian man killed by gangsters in Runda They kata that kei apple fence n make a way hadi buffalo inaweza pita n once they r in the compound that watchie even with his karungu will have to hide... I think the solution is to have like 10 serious dogs...rottweilers hivi... @Jagger and @Maka...all those things you have mentioned above do not stop these guys when they strike!! Just last month in the same area, they stormed into a house belonging to a friend of mine....killed all the dogs, took time to cut the burglar proof windows, shot the hinges of the bullet proof windows and stormed in....others remianed outside, and when the security company came to the rescue, they responded abrasively by firing..the security company was rendered irrelevant....all this time, I have been thinking of the best way to secure a house.....any ideas? Did they use silencers? Or did the neighbors decide to ignore the shots, and not call RECCE? Who are these thugs because that is some scary sh*t! If this is Karen, in a house with bullet-proof windows, what about ordinary mwanainchi? @Mukiri, kama security company did not manage to contain the attack, sembuse the neighbours... Not safe at all....and now new of cops held hostage in west pokot.... Turkana it is. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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As a victim of a violent robbery i can attest there is nothing you can do if you're not equally armed. When thugs attack your house you are on your own until they decide to leave. Your neighbours will cower in their houses and pray they don't come to their houses. The cops will wait until they leave to share in the loot. The estate security watchmen who are probably in cohorts or your part of the gang will blow whistles aimlessly to scare and distract would be rescuers and are in constant communication will the gang. Let me tell you this robberies are not planned on the whim. These are long term plans with intelligence gathering i.e some guys assigned to monitor you or your activities and your business and family. These guys can be part of your family i.e children spouse brother etc who can either ardently or inadvertently leak out sensitive personal information, gardeners, house girls, Fundis who leak reconstruction plans and weaknesses. Then there is a safe house who is your neighbour which is unbelievable but true to hide the thugs and stolen loot as you go around looking for the thugs. But the worst are the cops the level of evidence gathering is non existent. The questions they ask are what was stolen period. let me say never underate those watchies fundis house girls boda boda operators the information they have is unbelievable and deep they know everything and who does what and what is going to happen. how is this possible? cause they live in the same neighbourhood "slums" have the same "code" and probably grew up together and this is what probably their parents did for a living. what can save you is to own a weapon that can overpower these guys, our ancestors didn't carry weapons around and sleep outside guarding their families and granaries for the fun of it. We should legalize the right to own guns and equalize any encounter we might have with the enemy.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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jokes wrote:As a victim of a violent robbery i can attest there is nothing you can do if you're not equally armed. When thugs attack your house you are on your own until they decide to leave. Your neighbours will cower in their houses and pray they don't come to their houses. The cops will wait until they leave to share in the loot. The estate security watchmen who are probably in cohorts or your part of the gang will blow whistles aimlessly to scare and distract would be rescuers and are in constant communication will the gang. Let me tell you this robberies are not planned on the whim. These are long term plans with intelligence gathering i.e some guys assigned to monitor you or your activities and your business and family. These guys can be part of your family i.e children spouse brother etc who can either ardently or inadvertently leak out sensitive personal information, gardeners, house girls, Fundis who leak reconstruction plans and weaknesses. Then there is a safe house who is your neighbour which is unbelievable but true to hide the thugs and stolen loot as you go around looking for the thugs. But the worst are the cops the level of evidence gathering is non existent. The questions they ask are what was stolen period. let me say never underate those watchies fundis house girls boda boda operators the information they have is unbelievable and deep they know everything and who does what and what is going to happen. how is this possible? cause they live in the same neighbourhood "slums" have the same "code" and probably grew up together and this is what probably their parents did for a living. what can save you is to own a weapon that can overpower these guys, our ancestors didn't carry weapons around and sleep outside guarding their families and granaries for the fun of it. We should legalize the right to own guns and equalize any encounter we might have with the enemy. Have you read anything I wrote above? Security company came with cops with guns, and these thieves chased them away...that is how ready they were!!! However, you are correct about intelligence gathering... To those suggesting a safe room, or hideout, who should be privy to this information? Your kids may just leak that info to someone else....
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