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Bitcoin: Does it have a future ?
Museveni
#21 Posted : Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29:04 PM
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Bitcoin-friendly Internet Credit Union suddenly dumps accounts, citing 'regulatory issues'

The Internet Archive Federal Credit Union, an experimental financial institution run by the eponymous nonprofit that archives web history, has established itself as a Bitcoin haven. In contrast to traditional banks, which snubbed businesses built around the virtual currency, the IAFCU basically put up a Bitcoin welcome sign. "These are not drug dealers, money launderers, or whatever. These are average folks," IAFCU CEO Jordan Modell told Wired.

That all changed yesterday, however, when the credit union announced it will be dumping its Bitcoin clients.

"Certain operational and regulatory issues came up including some that apply to new credit unions like ours," IAFCU CEO Jordan Modell wrote in a blog post. "Until we have further clarity, we are unable to service some of our corporate members."


Bitcoin, the semi-anonymous virtual currency that approximates cash on the internet, has seen an increase in regulatory scrutiny in the US over the past few months. It started in March when FinCEN, a division of the Treasury Department, announced that certain Bitcoin businesses must register with the federal government. The largest Bitcoin business in the world, Mt. Gox, is currently beset by legal troubles that may lead to its demise.

IAFCU's decision to cut off Bitcoin will make it even harder for those businesses to operate in the US. Bitcoin exchange Tradehill had recently registered with FinCEN and shifted its accounts to the IAFCU, an attempt to comply with US law while affording its clients security for their deposits. But just six days later, the credit union cut Tradehill off. The loss seemed to be too much for Tradehill, which has halted trading indefinitely "due to banking and regulatory issues."

Bitcoin advocates went to Capitol Hill earlier this week to talk to regulators and legislators, who are concerned that the currency facilitates crime including the drug trade, tax evasion, and money laundering. Bitcoiners hope to clear up the currency's ambiguous legal status and set precedent for a peaceful coexistence with the US dollar. The fact that regulators were willing to meet with them is encouraging, but it's likely the start of a long, complex negotiation with an uncertain outcome.

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By Jordan on August 29th, 2013
Starting three months ago we have enjoyed serving some individuals and companies involved in bitcoin that are within our field of membership. While exciting, this has also been during a period of increased interest from the press, regulators, and other financial services entities that make up the financial community. In doing this, certain operational and regulatory issues came up including some that apply to new credit unions like ours.

Our credit union has worked within the evolving regulatory environment, which has not always been easy. This is a long not a short road and sometimes with detours. Until we have further clarity, we are unable to service some of our corporate members.

On a positive note, we are finding all involved are interested in a stable environment for bitcoin and other innovative technologies.
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Museveni
#22 Posted : Friday, September 06, 2013 9:45:42 AM
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Follow The Bitcoins: How We Got Busted Buying Drugs On Silk Road's Black Market

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Museveni
#23 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 2:18:12 PM
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U.S. Agencies to say Bitcoins Offer Legitimate Benefits
bloomberg wrote:
The Department of Justice and Securities and Exchange Commission are telling a U.S. Senate committee that Bitcoins are legitimate financial instruments, boosting prospects for wider acceptance of the virtual currency.

Representatives from the agencies told the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs ahead of a hearing today that the digital money offers benefits and carries risks, like any other online-payment system, according to letters they released before the meeting. ......


US has Already Ceded Dominance in Bitcoin Trading

coindesk wrote:
Expertise and dominance in a particular industry sector doesn’t come about by decree. It is achieved over years through repeated practice and creative experimentation.

During the first three-and-a-half years of bitcoin’s development from 2009 to 2012, a large portion of that technological experimentation had been occurring in the US with multiple bitcoin trading exchanges and bitcoin-related businesses.

Now, there exists only one functioning exchange in the US with diminishing volume compared to its competitors. The Atlanta-based exchange, Camp BX, had reached such a low point of average daily trading volume that it was removed from the CoinDesk BPI earlier this month.....
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Museveni
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:14:25 AM
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Ben Bernanke’s letter to Congress: Bitcoin and other virtual currencies “may hold long-term promise”
quartz wrote:
America’s top central banker has given his cautious blessing to bitcoin, the virtual currency that famously requires no central bank.

In a letter ahead of today’s congressional hearings, US Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke mostly distanced himself from virtual currencies, saying the Fed “does not necessarily have authority to directly supervise or regulate these innovations or the entities that provide them to the market.” But he also said that bitcoin and its ilk “may hold long-term promise, particularly if the innovations promote a faster, more secure and more efficient payment system.”



Bitcoin surges to all-time high of $900, then drops below $650 in 30 minutes

geekwire wrote:
On the same day the U.S. government began discussions about Bitcoin, the value of the digital currency is skyrocketing.

Bitcoin’s value hit $900 on Mt. Gox exchange around 5 p.m. PST Monday, up more than 70 percent from Sunday’s close and setting an all-time high in the process. But, it also just dropped to $650 within the past 30 minutes, highlighting the current volatility of Bitcoin. The value of Bitcoin only hit $400 for the first time last week, and $500 for the first time on Sunday.

Today’s spike is likely due to The Department of Justice noting that Bitcoins can be “legal means of exchange,” and U.S. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke writing that Bitcoin “may hold long-term promise,” even though he said the Federal Reserve has no plans to regulate Bitcoin.


Meet The 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Murder With Bitcoins

forbes wrote:
....For now, the site’s rewards are small but not insignificant. In the four months that Assassination Market has been online, six targets have been submitted by users, and bounties have been collected ranging from ten bitcoins for the murder of NSA director Keith Alexander and 40 bitcoins for the assassination of President Barack Obama to 124.14 bitcoins–the largest current bounty on the site–targeting Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve and public enemy number one for many of Bitcoin’s anti-banking-system users. At Bitcoin’s current rapidly rising exchanges rate, that’s nearly $75,000 for Bernanke’s would-be killer......


China is quietly positioning itself to dominate the brave new world of Bitcoin.
cnn wrote:
Until recently the digital cyrptocurrency was considered a joke by the financial mainstream, but the view is starting to shift now that prices have surged above their April peak and are now hovering around $600.

Bitcoins are still being viewed cautiously by lawmakers and regulators in the United States. In fact, there are two Senate hearings this week about the risks Bitcoin poses. But that is decidedly not the case in China. There has been a steady drumbeat of positive news in the Chinese press this year, including a landmark report on CCTV, China's national television network.

China's fascination with the currency upstart resulted in an estimated 40,000 client downloads a day and a burgeoning acceptance rate from online retailers down to physical traders standing in Tiananmen Square.
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kizee1
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:41:32 AM
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now

for the fed and other state agencies to nuthug digital currencies raises eyebrows

the whole idea behind these currencies goes against what the fed and any other CB stand for

i dont like this...i think a good idea has been ambushed here
Museveni
#26 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:37:04 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
now

for the fed and other state agencies to nuthug digital currencies raises eyebrows

the whole idea behind these currencies goes against what the fed and any other CB stand for

i dont like this...i think a good idea has been ambushed here

It is not an ambush rather a normal mass acceptance process that must go on.

Did you miss that spike & 30 min slide ?

Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
kizee1
#27 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:43:41 PM
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Museveni wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
now

for the fed and other state agencies to nuthug digital currencies raises eyebrows

the whole idea behind these currencies goes against what the fed and any other CB stand for

i dont like this...i think a good idea has been ambushed here

It is not an ambush rather a normal mass acceptance process that must go on.

Did you miss that spike & 30 min slide ?



i dont follow the price as keenly as you do, im just a fan of the concept of debt free money that cant be manipulated by govts/ central banks
Museveni
#28 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:54:13 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
Museveni wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
now

for the fed and other state agencies to nuthug digital currencies raises eyebrows

the whole idea behind these currencies goes against what the fed and any other CB stand for

i dont like this...i think a good idea has been ambushed here

It is not an ambush rather a normal mass acceptance process that must go on.

Did you miss that spike & 30 min slide ?



i dont follow the price as keenly as you do, im just a fan of the concept of debt free money that cant be manipulated by govts/ central banks


not that I follow the price movement that keenly but that has been widely reported with the ongoing senate hearings in the USA
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MarketWizz
#29 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:56:36 PM
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Bitcoins currently at 600+ dollars. In no time expect it at 1000+. almost reaching gold yet its intangible. I just hope its not a bubble.
Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.-Warren Buffett

hisah
#30 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:56:56 PM
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I like this bitcoin fight. Back to the days of roman empire collapse or the british empire collapse. Since Cyprus bail in (day light robbery of depositors' funds) this thing has melted up like a rocket yet the masses are not involved.

When fools rush in it'll be interesting to behold...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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