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Safcom's bamba 5 and bamba 10
Njunge
#11 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 7:17:00 AM
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@Ako,
Being on the lower end does not give one a right not to use his head.Think.If i found myself in need of credit worth 5 bob or 10,why walk all the way to the kiosk while i can borrow 45 bob from MJ....................??......and then move to YU without repaying.......hell yes.

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leona
#12 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 8:06:00 AM
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I think Safcom is now acting in desperation. What this bamba 5 and 10 will do is take the enviromental fight against making unnecessary printouts 50 steps back! Those 5's and 10's are a pure waste of paper...and trees! Unless am talking from an uninformed point(of which am very sorry if i am) Safcom doesnt use recycled paper to make their scratch cards! Last i checked,there was a campaign to sensitize people on the importance of loading airtime through Mpesa or any other means that seeks to conserve our trees and the pollution that comes from throwing the used scratch cards back into our environment. Eh,wajameni,MJ forgot all this?? We're trying to move to the era of no scratch cards,nao wanaturudisha uko?!

And before you even pounce o me for not caring about the poor,think of that child you watched in the news last night being rained on and eating boiled maize for dinner after being evicted from the Mau. If we had listened to enviromental experts years ago,and acted not out of selfinshness,but out of concern for our future generations,that child now contracting Pneumonia out in the cold in Mau,would be in a warm house,somewhere else,So,why would Safcom encourage printing of small valued airtime cards,when we're fighting sooo hard to restore our environment? If they really cared about the poor,they would have thought of a better way to help them,one that has less impact on the environment!

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sheep
#13 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 8:09:00 AM
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I think its meant to target the 'kadogo economy' like in kibera where people people buy one spoonful of cooking fat,sugar,tea leaves etc just to survive.But the economics of producing a ksh 5.00 scratch card does not seem viable.Lets hope MJ has done proper research.
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mogash
#14 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 8:24:00 AM
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instead of introducing bamba 5 why can't they reduce calling rates.5bob you cannot call for a minute afadhali YU u can call for a minute with 5bob to any network . safcom wamepatikana......

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The General
#15 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 8:43:00 AM
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cheap is expensive.you cant talk with five shilling unless you want to leave the other guy in suspense.

instead of introducing bamba 5 why can't they reduce calling rates.5bob you cannot call for a minute afadhali YU u can call for a minute with 5bob to any network . safcom wamepatikana......

Sh 5/500cents @ 80cents a min gives you 6.25 min of talk time.

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Bonc
#16 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 8:58:00 AM
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Explain how this would cater for the poor yet the calling rates are still high?? At 8bob thats arnd 36 secs. Talking of the 80cts,how many times are we able to call using this rate??? May be they should think of introducing zones with different call rates eg bei ya tao,bei ya slums etc as they had done with bei ya campo If they really care abt the lower end of the market.
Wendz
#17 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 9:20:00 AM
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May be they were thinking of messages like below which you can convey with 5 shillings call

'Ni pigie'
'nimefika stage'
'stima imekatwa'
'kuja na maziwa'
'Mtoto amepotea'

the first two e.g for young lovers and the others probably coming from your housegal at home.

Someone may have put some thought in it... may be what they didnt consider(among others) is the increased trips to the kiosk.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

leona
#18 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 9:34:00 AM
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@Wendz
LAMO! hizo ni kali..

Maybe..they wanted to help supermarkets and the banks get the 5bobs and ma-bobs that have been very elusive of late. So,badala ya kupewa PK ama Lollipop if the cashier has no coins,they'll be giving you bamba 5...kwanza by force! he he

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Djinn
#19 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 10:11:00 AM
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@leona and sheep...you have pointed out two key issues - environmental and cost. And with everyone's indulgence,I;d like to look at these objectively (indeed I have gone to Firefox in order to use bullet points....and pls forget for a minute that I am anti-scom).



Cost - Sheep,aside from the obvioius cost of the card (printing,paper,security features for the PIN)....MJ is as good as taking food away from scom scracth card sellers....whereas Wafula in Kangemi knew he would sell at least 10 cards of 50bob per day (and make a meagre 5% margin),now his customers are no longer compelled to buy the 50 card but will buy the lowest they can for a particular time. Meanwhile,the corporate monster,through about 5 distributors,has pre-sold millions of shillings of airtime - literally millions per hour. For real or my real name is Passat Ocampo Omollo.
Environmental - we have seen,how all mobile companies scratch cards are proportionately smaller by the value. I;d like to think the 5 bob and 10 bob cards still need a 12 digit code - essentially there is no way the card could become smaller than the 50 bob strip - unless of course they use a smaller font size - like in a bible. So,whereas they used to print 1 card of 50 - now we will have 10 cards of 5 bob. Suppose we say,HYPOTHETICALLY speaking,that it takes one tree a day to print x number of 50 bob scratch cards,it will now take 10 trees a day to print 10x number of 5bob scratch cards. That is not counting the additional environmental burden in terms of chemicals to print and of course the litter (BTW EABL has a paper recycler who collects 5 tonnes of washed off beer labels per day! I;d like to think there are more scratch card users than there are beer drinkers - so for all mobile operators,it could be even as high as 30 tonnes a day of scracth cards).


I have always maintained SCOM is to capitalistic and despite the existence of the SCOM foundation and all that CSR,you,the WORKING Kenyan individual,are not in its heart. One cannot say the same for Equity Bank,Coop Bank,Bidco,etc - these are companies with a human face who are responsive and understand people.

One last parting shot - which also explains how cold hearted and utilitarian Safaricom is - and please indulge me. Elsewhere in SK I wrote about how they eagerly rolled out Simu ya Jamii - many Kenyans felt it would be a lifeline and invested anything between 25k-30k on the device. then the big green giant lowered tariffs and introduced the 50 bob card. Kenyans had no longer any reason to use Simu ya Jamii and those who had invested were left with hardware they could not use.

Now,the same dealer is being pushed against the wall to increase volumes while getting the same margins. Don't pay heed to the promotion they have for dealers....pay it as much attention as you would the Ongea tariff.

@Leona you are right - the green giant is against the wall and acting in desperation - this is just another 'hit and miss' strategy....Yu imetanda,Zain iko popote ulipo,Orange...haki yenu!

My two zain shillings.

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The General
#20 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2009 10:39:00 AM
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@ Wendz,LMAO,

@ Leona,you have raised a very valid point about the coins. Which Limau is LAMO :) ?

Cant wait to see how much the 'lower end of the market' contributes to Scom.

So far,the the environment issue seems to be the only negative.

IMO,there is a large market that can't afford Bamba 20,and will be sufficiently catered for with the Bamba 5 & 10. All people need to communicate.

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