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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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muganda wrote:Insightful! For the sake of knowledge presuming Lady Admin will not mind, please state just 3 lessons you've learnt from @Alphdoti. 3 lessons purely from AlphDoti's perspective with no disclaimers or alterations, that have changed your previously held position... Mukiri wrote:Drum beating?  Is that what they call sermons nowadays? I have learnt alot from @AlphDoti. As I'm sure alot of us have. Our exchanges, however passionate, are not geared towards conversion of either party; more-like a way of 'educating' each other from our respective point of views. We observe decorum, are not abusive. It is those that assume they know our intentions that spoil the broth. Madeemoni. Thank you (presuming, just like you that @Lady Admin won't mind) 1. That its Qur'an, not Koran. 2. That its not readily available but with a good reason, there are places (as given by the muslim) one can get it. 3. That initially he didn't know about translations, saying that translating looses the gist of it. He later on revoked that and said Swahili and English versions are available. 4. That the Qur'an is a compilation of an orphan's(learnt from him) called Mohamed, dreams. 5. Niendelee?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@mukiri, you don't know @muganda is @admin's Duale? I wonder where he is when suspended wazuans are asking for communication of the reason for the 'discplinary' measure. No wonder then despite the increase in 'discplinary' measures there's zero improvement!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Kweli @Lolest! I should have known better rather than comment on these debates, even as a mole. Since as once taught - I know that I know nothing - I have no urge whatsoever to be proven right or wrong. Hehehe  @mukiri, thanks. You avoided stating lessons from @AlphDoti that changed your heart choosing cosmetic observations. But you've won, case closed!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Mukiri wrote:masukuma wrote:wazua wrote:Dear Members, We appealed for restraint as regards religious differences on 31-Oct-2013 to no avail. We would much prefer to ignore in silence, but threads that deteriorate to religious vitriol are counter to the Wazua spirit and result in moderation. Respectfully, there is a misconception nowadays that we have the latitude to express every deep nagging thought, belief, fear; openly to society. Such conduct serves to compromise our relations at home, with our friends, family, work, and now on Wazua. Sample thread: Our pastors http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.as...&m=486635#post486635Let us choose instead to learn from each other irrespective of our differences. And if all fails, let us cordially but respectfully, agree to disagree. The Wazua spirit wewe...who complained to you? @Mukiri and @AlphDoti have been having theological discussions for very long unless one of them complains to you about the conduct of the other I suggest you keep your focus on those threads that are unsavory to some of us but may be interesting to you and others i.e. those that deal with "pines", "airports", "landings" e.t.c. tutakuita hapa when we need your intervention. @Madam Admin, There are three noticeable trolls. When either gets into a religious thread its nyweeeee downhill  @muchr, @quicksand and @muriel. My advice, since the three have shown their inability to steer clear from whence they have outrightly declared contempt, open two threads; Christian and Islam and ban the three from them. @Mukiri You sound like that bully kid who always points at others when his oily hand have been found in the mandazi jar. @admin, keep it up, tame these so called warriors "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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muganda wrote:Kweli @Lolest! I should have known better rather than comment on these debates, even as a mole. Since as once taught - I know that I know nothing - I have no urge whatsoever to be proven right or wrong. Hehehe @mukiri, thanks. You avoided stating lessons from @AlphDoti that changed your heart choosing cosmetic observations. But you've won, case closed! Lol its a jungle here in Club SK. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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bkismat wrote:muganda wrote:Kweli @Lolest! I should have known better rather than comment on these debates, even as a mole. Since as once taught - I know that I know nothing - I have no urge whatsoever to be proven right or wrong. Hehehe @mukiri, thanks. You avoided stating lessons from @AlphDoti that changed your heart choosing cosmetic observations. But you've won, case closed! Lol its a jungle here in Club SK. Kilabu ina wenyewe 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:muganda wrote:Insightful! For the sake of knowledge presuming Lady Admin will not mind, please state just 3 lessons you've learnt from @Alphdoti. 3 lessons purely from AlphDoti's perspective with no disclaimers or alterations, that have changed your previously held position... Mukiri wrote:Drum beating? Is that what they call sermons nowadays? I have learnt alot from @AlphDoti. As I'm sure alot of us have. Our exchanges, however passionate, are not geared towards conversion of either party; more-like a way of 'educating' each other from our respective point of views. We observe decorum, are not abusive. It is those that assume they know our intentions that spoil the broth. Madeemoni. Thank you (presuming, just like you that @Lady Admin won't mind) 1. That its Qur'an, not Koran. 2. That its not readily available but with a good reason, there are places (as given by the muslim) one can get it. 3. That initially he didn't know about translations, saying that translating looses the gist of it. He later on revoked that and said Swahili and English versions are available. 4. That the Qur'an is a compilation of an orphan's(learnt from him) called Mohamed, dreams. 5. Niendelee? @Mukiri are you taught to lie? Where did I say I din't know about translations? Didn't I tell you that you can get it in a language like Swhili or English? And I said the translation is not the Quran, it's a translation. The Quran is the original one in Arabic. Translation is just for your understanding if you don't know Arabic. Where did I say the Quran is a dream by somebody? Where did I say it's only available in some places given by Muslims? I said sorry we cannot put them in the hotel rooms. I just showed you a place in town to buy. I didn't say that is the only place. I even told you you can get it at any mosque or buy it from many bookshops. So stop lying please.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:muganda wrote:Insightful! For the sake of knowledge presuming Lady Admin will not mind, please state just 3 lessons you've learnt from @Alphdoti. 3 lessons purely from AlphDoti's perspective with no disclaimers or alterations, that have changed your previously held position... Mukiri wrote:Drum beating? Is that what they call sermons nowadays? I have learnt alot from @AlphDoti. As I'm sure alot of us have. Our exchanges, however passionate, are not geared towards conversion of either party; more-like a way of 'educating' each other from our respective point of views. We observe decorum, are not abusive. It is those that assume they know our intentions that spoil the broth. Madeemoni. Thank you (presuming, just like you that @Lady Admin won't mind) 1. That its Qur'an, not Koran. 2. That its not readily available but with a good reason, there are places (as given by the muslim) one can get it. 3. That initially he didn't know about translations, saying that translating looses the gist of it. He later on revoked that and said Swahili and English versions are available. 4. That the Qur'an is a compilation of an orphan's(learnt from him) called Mohamed, dreams. 5. Niendelee? @Mukiri are you taught to lie? Where did I say I din't know about translations? Didn't I tell you that you can get it in a language like Swhili or English? And I said the translation is not the Quran, it's a translation. The Quran is the original one in Arabic. Translation is just for your understanding if you don't know Arabic. Where did I say the Quran is a dream by somebody? Where did I say it's only available in some places given by Muslims? I said sorry we cannot put them in the hotel rooms. I just showed you a place in town to buy. I didn't say that is the only place. I even told you you can get it at any mosque or buy it from many bookshops. So stop lying please. popcorns I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:muganda wrote:Insightful! For the sake of knowledge presuming Lady Admin will not mind, please state just 3 lessons you've learnt from @Alphdoti. 3 lessons purely from AlphDoti's perspective with no disclaimers or alterations, that have changed your previously held position... Mukiri wrote:Drum beating? Is that what they call sermons nowadays? I have learnt alot from @AlphDoti. As I'm sure alot of us have. Our exchanges, however passionate, are not geared towards conversion of either party; more-like a way of 'educating' each other from our respective point of views. We observe decorum, are not abusive. It is those that assume they know our intentions that spoil the broth. Madeemoni. Thank you (presuming, just like you that @Lady Admin won't mind) 1. That its Qur'an, not Koran. 2. That its not readily available but with a good reason, there are places (as given by the muslim) one can get it. 3. That initially he didn't know about translations, saying that translating looses the gist of it. He later on revoked that and said Swahili and English versions are available. 4. That the Qur'an is a compilation of an orphan's(learnt from him) called Mohamed, dreams. 5. Niendelee? @Mukiri are you taught to lie? Where did I say I din't know about translations? Didn't I tell you that you can get it in a language like Swhili or English? And I said the translation is not the Quran, it's a translation. The Quran is the original one in Arabic. Translation is just for your understanding if you don't know Arabic. Where did I say the Quran is a dream by somebody? Where did I say it's only available in some places given by Muslims? I said sorry we cannot put them in the hotel rooms. I just showed you a place in town to buy. I didn't say that is the only place. I even told you you can get it at any mosque or buy it from many bookshops. So stop lying please. At least for me I learnt that some people here in wazua support terrorism.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 1,799
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mawinder wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:muganda wrote:Insightful! For the sake of knowledge presuming Lady Admin will not mind, please state just 3 lessons you've learnt from @Alphdoti. 3 lessons purely from AlphDoti's perspective with no disclaimers or alterations, that have changed your previously held position... Mukiri wrote:Drum beating? Is that what they call sermons nowadays? I have learnt alot from @AlphDoti. As I'm sure alot of us have. Our exchanges, however passionate, are not geared towards conversion of either party; more-like a way of 'educating' each other from our respective point of views. We observe decorum, are not abusive. It is those that assume they know our intentions that spoil the broth. Madeemoni. Thank you (presuming, just like you that @Lady Admin won't mind) 1. That its Qur'an, not Koran. 2. That its not readily available but with a good reason, there are places (as given by the muslim) one can get it. 3. That initially he didn't know about translations, saying that translating looses the gist of it. He later on revoked that and said Swahili and English versions are available. 4. That the Qur'an is a compilation of an orphan's(learnt from him) called Mohamed, dreams. 5. Niendelee? @Mukiri are you taught to lie? Where did I say I din't know about translations? Didn't I tell you that you can get it in a language like Swhili or English? And I said the translation is not the Quran, it's a translation. The Quran is the original one in Arabic. Translation is just for your understanding if you don't know Arabic. Where did I say the Quran is a dream by somebody? Where did I say it's only available in some places given by Muslims? I said sorry we cannot put them in the hotel rooms. I just showed you a place in town to buy. I didn't say that is the only place. I even told you you can get it at any mosque or buy it from many bookshops. So stop lying please. At least for me I learnt that some people here in wazua support terrorism. airport Terrorism!!!!
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