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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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wanyee wrote:I think the ngavana has no much choice but to go the planned urbanization route ..look at machakos..little acreage of rain fed arable land increasing population where land division is increasing the only way out is planned urbanization and creating trading opportunities..Kaos have always been traders..if he couples that with education ..Kaos are also naturally skilled artisans..the curving and tyre akalas...just redirect this in born skills to silicon( made from sand which is largely available there) and bang we have Japanese like communities...skilled ..a brand product culture..and hence continuous propagated progression..my 3 dururus
It would be interesting to read your undergrad/masters/phd thesis. You always come up with good ideas on poverty alleviation and wealth distribution. If you've never been to an economics class, make sure you enroll soonest. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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As seen from the other side  "ππ‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder ππ " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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InnovateGuy wrote:wanyee wrote:I think the ngavana has no much choice but to go the planned urbanization route ..look at machakos..little acreage of rain fed arable land increasing population where land division is increasing the only way out is planned urbanization and creating trading opportunities..Kaos have always been traders..if he couples that with education ..Kaos are also naturally skilled artisans..the curving and tyre akalas...just redirect this in born skills to silicon( made from sand which is largely available there) and bang we have Japanese like communities...skilled ..a brand product culture..and hence continuous propagated progression..my 3 dururus
It would be interesting to read your undergrad/masters/phd thesis. You always come up with good ideas on poverty alleviation and wealth distribution. If you've never been to an economics class, make sure you enroll soonest.  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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InnovateGuy wrote:wanyee wrote:I think the ngavana has no much choice but to go the planned urbanization route ..look at machakos..little acreage of rain fed arable land increasing population where land division is increasing the only way out is planned urbanization and creating trading opportunities..Kaos have always been traders..if he couples that with education ..Kaos are also naturally skilled artisans..the curving and tyre akalas...just redirect this in born skills to silicon( made from sand which is largely available there) and bang we have Japanese like communities...skilled ..a brand product culture..and hence continuous propagated progression..my 3 dururus
It would be interesting to read your undergrad/masters/phd thesis. You always come up with good ideas on poverty alleviation and wealth distribution. If you've never been to an economics class, make sure you enroll soonest. He doesn't have to enroll in class, sometimes school doesn't take out the best in us because we're conditioned to think in a particular way. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Much Know wrote:Interesting, he seems to favor "tao" much more than shagz munduz when it comes to his plan, plus the land to build these "taos" is "free", and the shagz mondos Majority) can only do menial jobs in tao, it will be a tao for tao guys only man or many Nairobians move to this new town! but he is called Dr., and most reviews loud his work, i will hesh his title and hope to learn something. I guess you missed the news, shags mudus got tractors free fertilizer, seeds and chicks. They will build silos in every constituency and look for market. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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InnovateGuy wrote:wanyee wrote:I think the ngavana has no much choice but to go the planned urbanization route ..look at machakos..little acreage of rain fed arable land increasing population where land division is increasing the only way out is planned urbanization and creating trading opportunities..Kaos have always been traders..if he couples that with education ..Kaos are also naturally skilled artisans..the curving and tyre akalas...just redirect this in born skills to silicon( made from sand which is largely available there) and bang we have Japanese like communities...skilled ..a brand product culture..and hence continuous propagated progression..my 3 dururus
It would be interesting to read your undergrad/masters/phd thesis. You always come up with good ideas on poverty alleviation and wealth distribution. If you've never been to an economics class, make sure you enroll soonest.  I just happen to be a native of mayakos with a keen urge to see some change done
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Siringi wrote:As seen from the other side Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2010 Posts: 305
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jaggernaut wrote:Siringi wrote:As seen from the other side Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos? Nairobi ni jina. At some point in time, all company HQs were in CBD. Now its upperhill and westlands. Tomorrow of tomorrow, it will be Thika, Mayakos na kwingineko. Question is, what makes Nairobi a favourite location? If Mayakos or any other city surpasses that, issue on relocation becomes when, not if. http://www.businessdaily.../-/u3ey1hz/-/index.html
If the Machakos City is supported by such infrastructure, WHY NOT? But will the real estate mafia support? Wont it burst the real estate bubble in the capital?
βOnce the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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hindi ni riu wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Siringi wrote:As seen from the other side Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos? Nairobi ni jina. At some point in time, all company HQs were in CBD. Now its upperhill and westlands. Tomorrow of tomorrow, it will be Thika, Mayakos na kwingineko. Question is, what makes Nairobi a favourite location? If Mayakos or any other city surpasses that, issue on relocation becomes when, not if. http://www.businessdaily.../-/u3ey1hz/-/index.html
If the Machakos City is supported by such infrastructure, WHY NOT? But will the real estate mafia support? Wont it burst the real estate bubble in the capital? the mafia would only be worried if the UN complex was to be moved - since that will not happen, machakos can benefit greatly if they were to actualize that project.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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If: The success of the national government depends on the success of the counties
Then: I expect the Jubilee government to provide the necessary support facilities such as roads and railway link to Machakos which would in turn attract and assure investors
Consequently: The country would be closer to the double digit economic growth and Uhuru would also stand to gain some political goodwill from ukambani Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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jaggernaut wrote:Siringi wrote:As seen from the other side Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos? @jag.......very, Nrb CBD is deteriorating fast...now most buildings are stalls. Upperhill....the roads will not attract anymore, its over-populated. Most ppl who work in nrb live out there...kiambu, thuka, machakos. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/8/2013 Posts: 126
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i think if alfie can work with kidero to build a reliable high speed train from Nrb to macha, then many companies may consider relocating to there, even investors in high residential estates may stop buying these overpriced land in nairobi and go for the free land in machakos
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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hindi ni riu wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Siringi wrote:As seen from the other side Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos? Nairobi ni jina. At some point in time, all company HQs were in CBD. Now its upperhill and westlands. Tomorrow of tomorrow, it will be Thika, Mayakos na kwingineko. Question is, what makes Nairobi a favourite location? If Mayakos or any other city surpasses that, issue on relocation becomes when, not if. http://www.businessdaily.../-/u3ey1hz/-/index.html
If the Machakos City is supported by such infrastructure, WHY NOT? But will the real estate mafia support? Wont it burst the real estate bubble in the capital? History. Machakos had been chosen by the British as a capital city until the hills made the Mzungu think twice. Then security was a major issue and they figured protecting Mayakos from an enemy onslaught would be hard courtesy of the hills... Nairobi. The CBD started in River roadi. moved to west towards Tom Mboya before going further west of Moi Avenue.. It then shifted to Westlands and currently UpperHill which is already chocked. However Nairobi is one chocked congested and unplanned piece of chaos that is running courtesy of maintaining our pride (im not just talking CBD here) The forces that feed from it (real Estate Mafias) are the same ones that have held Nairobi. But with all forces in history. growth is necessary and change is inevitable. Nairobi can't hold any more. It's like a gold fish, its size is determined by the size of bowl its kept in. For economic growth. Nairobi has to let go (devolve its strange hold on everything)only then can it also grow economically.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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omhangla wrote:i think if alfie can work with kidero to build a reliable high speed train from Nrb to macha, then many companies may consider relocating to there, even investors in high residential estates may stop buying these overpriced land in nairobi and go for the free land in machakos Looks like your query was answered "ππ‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder ππ " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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wanyee wrote:With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate. I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch? I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;)
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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poundfoolish wrote:wanyee wrote:With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate. I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch? I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;)  tyranny of mafia
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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wanyee wrote:poundfoolish wrote:wanyee wrote:With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate. I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch? I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;) tyranny of mafia You are awkward and backward.....Most of all,you are way behind and with little help.They say,if you can't beat them,join them.....Meanwhile,stop whining and do something about your sorry self! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Konza, Tatu, now Machakos...planned cities aimed at pulling pressure from Nairobi? I sure do hope they all work but I'm sceptical! Economic activity should lead to growth of urban centres not the other way round. But maybe planned settlements defy this rule.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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Lolest! wrote:Konza, Tatu, now Machakos...planned cities aimed at pulling pressure from Nairobi? I sure do hope they all work but I'm sceptical! Economic activity should lead to growth of urban centres not the other way round. But maybe planned settlements defy this rule. I think this time around the "foondamentals" are right. A bit of optimism
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