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If God knew that Satan would rebel and Adam and Eve would sin, why did He create them?
Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/21/2011 Posts: 1,010
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am wondering,anyone can explain this?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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well, the real estate in hell had to be utilized somehow. I guess it was not very prime
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/21/2011 Posts: 1,010
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nakujua wrote:well, the real estate in hell had to be utilized somehow. I guess it was not very prime since he is all know,meaning he knows those that will go there and those that will not. ryt? if not the case, if its our choices that influence the path one will take, to what extent can i influence ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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I like this question.I've often asked myself the same thing.What puzzles me the most is why did God act in the first place?Anyway,I came to two conclusions.One,if I can't determine the depths of the cause of my own actions,it would presumptuous,though entertaining to decipher God's actions.Two,whatever conclusion I arrive at,I am still here and whether I like it or not,accurate or not,I still have to act.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/13/2006 Posts: 2,589
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Are you saying God does not know what your free will is going to tell you to do? BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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wilyum wrote:am wondering,anyone can explain this? Maybe he was bored  But seriously, I could answer your question another one. Why shouldn't God have done exactly what she did? After all, one other quality we attribute to her is "Anything God does, there is a good reason behind it." We simply have not arrived at the reason behind life yet, although I suspect we are close. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Quote:But since God created Lucifer, isn't He really responsible for his sin?
Not at all. God created Lucifer a perfect, sinless angel. Lucifer made a devil of himself. Freedom to choose is a cornerstone principle of God's government. God knew Lucifer would sin when He created him. If at that point God had refused to create him, He would have been repudiating that prime principle of free choice.
"Freedom to Choose" is God's Way
So, knowing full well what Lucifer would do, God still created him. The same facts apply to the creation of Adam and Eve. And, closer to home, these facts apply to you and me. God knows before we are born how we will live, but even so, He permits us to live and choose whether to endorse His government or Satan's. God is willing to be misunderstood and falsely accused and blamed for ages, while taking the time to allow every person to freely choose whom he will follow.
Only a Loving God Would Risk Granting Full Freedom for All
This glorious, crucial gift of freedom could come only from a just, open, loving God. It is an honor and joy to serve such a Lord and friend.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:Quote:But since God created Lucifer, isn't He really responsible for his sin?
Not at all. God created Lucifer a perfect, sinless angel. Lucifer made a devil of himself. Freedom to choose is a cornerstone principle of God's government. God knew Lucifer would sin when He created him. If at that point God had refused to create him, He would have been repudiating that prime principle of free choice.
"Freedom to Choose" is God's Way
So, knowing full well what Lucifer would do, God still created him. The same facts apply to the creation of Adam and Eve. And, closer to home, these facts apply to you and me. God knows before we are born how we will live, but even so, He permits us to live and choose whether to endorse His government or Satan's. God is willing to be misunderstood and falsely accused and blamed for ages, while taking the time to allow every person to freely choose whom he will follow.
Only a Loving God Would Risk Granting Full Freedom for All
This glorious, crucial gift of freedom could come only from a just, open, loving God. It is an honor and joy to serve such a Lord and friend. I do believe God is Love.Question is why?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/21/2011 Posts: 1,010
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smano wrote:Are you saying God does not know what your free will is going to tell you to do? he is omniscient,meaning all knowing,he knows what you will do
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