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Lolest!		#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 9:37:54 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		Kaigangio wrote: Read what Rwandese feel about Tanzania...Very interesting comments! interesting!! The current EAC population is around 140million people. Less than 1 country-Nigeria! Our combined GDP is also less than Nigeria's GDP. Actually EAC's combined GDP is roughly a third that of Nigeria! We really need Tz. Her population of close to 50m is EAC's largest! This could make good market for goods provided in other EAC countries. Educated Tanzanians should benefit also from jobs in other countries within the bloc. Let's not forget the natural resources that Tz is very blessed with. But Ndugu zetu Watanzania are fearful and hateful of their brothers in the bloc. Kwanza ndugu Wakenya! Everything evil is compared to us. And they are fearful we will take over their land-a resource which is still largely held by communities. You guys might also take over their jobs! I once had a chat with a TZ Foreign Ministry official. He told me they aren't against EAC but they have fears esp concerning land. Infact, in his opinion, the EAC is the only true economic bloc with tangible benefits when compared to SADC and COMESA. But then you wonder why it doesn't feel like they're serious with it...even on simple issues like labour movement! This is why you must feel Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda...I do not know this for sure but I have a feeling that they could be planning to restructure EAC membership in a way that it would move northwards i.e. include South Sudan,Sudan Ethiopia(population 85m) and Somalia. The beautiful girl in the region though is DRC. Everybody wants her
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Impunity		#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 9:41:25 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,334 Location: Masada		Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Kaigangio		#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:14:14 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		Impunity wrote: Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. People do make fatal mistakes that come to haunt them later.... Immediately after swearing in of the 4th PORK UK, RAO shouted at the top of his voice and at a roof top that he would not take any job offered to him by the president... Why is he now saying that he is ready to take an appointment by Uhuru, yet nothing has changed since then????He shot himself on the foot!...Ama desperation has started to bite??? Infact if I were Uhuru, if the need arose, I would appoint Kalonzo Musyoka *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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McReggae		#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:18:57 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		Kaigangio wrote: Impunity wrote: Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. People do make fatal mistakes that come to haunt them later.... Immediately after swearing in of the 4th PORK UK, RAO shouted at the top of his voice and at a roof top that he would not take any job offered to him by the president... Why is he now saying that he is ready to take an appointment by Uhuru, yet nothing has changed since then????He shot himself on the foot!...Ama desperation has started to bite??? Infact if I were Uhuru, if the need arose, I would appoint Kalonzo Musyoka You drunk with power I can see.....is it Johnny Walker to appoint? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Lolest!		#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:23:54 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		McReggae wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Impunity wrote: Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. People do make fatal mistakes that come to haunt them later.... Immediately after swearing in of the 4th PORK UK, RAO shouted at the top of his voice and at a roof top that he would not take any job offered to him by the president... Why is he now saying that he is ready to take an appointment by Uhuru, yet nothing has changed since then????He shot himself on the foot!...Ama desperation has started to bite??? Infact if I were Uhuru, if the need arose, I would appoint Kalonzo Musyoka You drunk with power I can see.....is it Johnny Walker to appoint? who would appoint, Kandie?
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Kaigangio		#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:53:43 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		McReggae wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Impunity wrote: Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. People do make fatal mistakes that come to haunt them later.... Immediately after swearing in of the 4th PORK UK, RAO shouted at the top of his voice and at a roof top that he would not take any job offered to him by the president... Why is he now saying that he is ready to take an appointment by Uhuru, yet nothing has changed since then????He shot himself on the foot!...Ama desperation has started to bite??? Infact if I were Uhuru, if the need arose, I would appoint Kalonzo Musyoka You drunk with power I can see.....is it Johnny Walker to appoint? I am no politician young man and neither do I subscribe to anything government except her services... Now, I know the truth about what your man was shouting about is really hard for you to swallow, but again who cares...he said himself then under no duress, why the about turn now??? I can guarantee you one thing nevertheless...that the EAC activities are being led and executed by the heads of states. Therefore, you can rest assured that any mediators needed shall be appointed and agreed upon by all the five heads of EAC states... Sadly your man stands no chance....really!!! *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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masukuma		#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:09:55 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		Lolest! wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Read what Rwandese feel about Tanzania...Very interesting comments! interesting!! The current EAC population is around 140million people. Less than 1 country-Nigeria! Our combined GDP is also less than Nigeria's GDP. Actually EAC's combined GDP is roughly a third that of Nigeria! We really need Tz. Her population of close to 50m is EAC's largest! This could make good market for goods provided in other EAC countries. Educated Tanzanians should benefit also from jobs in other countries within the bloc. Let's not forget the natural resources that Tz is very blessed with. But Ndugu zetu Watanzania are fearful and hateful of their brothers in the bloc. Kwanza ndugu Wakenya! Everything evil is compared to us. And they are fearful we will take over their land-a resource which is still largely held by communities. You guys might also take over their jobs! I once had a chat with a TZ Foreign Ministry official. He told me they aren't against EAC but they have fears esp concerning land. Infact, in his opinion, the EAC is the only true economic bloc with tangible benefits when compared to SADC and COMESA. But then you wonder why it doesn't feel like they're serious with it...even on simple issues like labour movement! This is why you must feel Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda...I do not know this for sure but I have a feeling that they could be planning to restructure EAC membership in a way that it would move northwards i.e. include South Sudan,Sudan Ethiopia(population 85m) and Somalia. The beautiful girl in the region though is DRC. Everybody wants her Ambia hawa watu hizi vitu! Wazungu walichora ma-lines kwa karatasi wakiwa wameketi Berlin in 1884 (130 years ago) they left 50 years ago but bado tunachunga hizo lines kwa karatasi na bidii mob nikama ni vitu za maana!! ati Migingo!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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mkeiyd		#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:22:53 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		Lolest! wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Read what Rwandese feel about Tanzania...Very interesting comments! interesting!! The current EAC population is around 140million people. Less than 1 country-Nigeria! Our combined GDP is also less than Nigeria's GDP. Actually EAC's combined GDP is roughly a third that of Nigeria! We really need Tz. Her population of close to 50m is EAC's largest! This could make good market for goods provided in other EAC countries. Educated Tanzanians should benefit also from jobs in other countries within the bloc. Let's not forget the natural resources that Tz is very blessed with. How many Tznians are "educated"? About population,what is the population of Singapore/Tiwan/Hong Kong/South Korea etc? Did their "small" populations stop them from advancing? We need Tz but with them not wanting us [Ke,Ug &Rw], we are left with no choice but soldier on. Their pessimism and paranoia will drag the whole bloc. Rwanda is supossed to be the most fearful but they aren't. They are reaping benefits of their fearlessness.
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urstill1		#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:54:38 PM
Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house		mkeiyd wrote: Lolest! wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Read what Rwandese feel about Tanzania...Very interesting comments! interesting!! The current EAC population is around 140million people. Less than 1 country-Nigeria! Our combined GDP is also less than Nigeria's GDP. Actually EAC's combined GDP is roughly a third that of Nigeria! We really need Tz. Her population of close to 50m is EAC's largest! This could make good market for goods provided in other EAC countries. Educated Tanzanians should benefit also from jobs in other countries within the bloc. Let's not forget the natural resources that Tz is very blessed with. How many Tznians are "educated"? About population,what is the population of Singapore/Tiwan/Hong Kong/South Korea etc? Did their "small" populations stop them from advancing? We need Tz but with them not wanting us [Ke,Ug &Rw], we are left with no choice but soldier on. Their pessimism and paranoia will drag the whole bloc. Rwanda is supossed to be the most fearful but they aren't. They are reaping benefits of their fearlessness. We don't have the leadership qualities and work ethics the countries you have mentioned posses. We are a population based continent, that's why companies like Ethiopia despite it's almost closed economy.
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washiku		#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:27:17 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095		Lolest! wrote: McReggae wrote: Kaigangio wrote: Impunity wrote: Siringi wrote: @M7 @kagame @ManUK There is a certain jobless guy who wants to be written job Huyu jamaa fulani wa vitendawili anakaa mbaya mbofu zaidi mpaka anaenda kuhawk kitabu tunaomba sirkal ziingilie ndani yake yawa he can drum sense to @jakayaKikwete na hawa WaTanzania and broker a power sharing agreement devolved to machinani iko experience kabisa yeye iko na namba ya kofi anan barack obama ocampo na hat desmond tutu Now RAO wants to be the presidents of East Africa's eminent personality...he wants to remain relevant.. People do make fatal mistakes that come to haunt them later.... Immediately after swearing in of the 4th PORK UK, RAO shouted at the top of his voice and at a roof top that he would not take any job offered to him by the president... Why is he now saying that he is ready to take an appointment by Uhuru, yet nothing has changed since then????He shot himself on the foot!...Ama desperation has started to bite??? Infact if I were Uhuru, if the need arose, I would appoint Kalonzo Musyoka You drunk with power I can see.....is it Johnny Walker to appoint? who would appoint, Kandie? A needy child's education depends on you. Click here to assist
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