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Magigi
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:42:59 PM
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madollar wrote:
With all those cops and the latest technology it took 6 hours to locate him .This guy could have inflicted maximum damage if he wanted to in those 6 hrs.The reality is that its very hard to police public areas like malls,airports etc No matter how prepared you are...

And the gunman was not primitive enough to inflict pain on people...
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jaggernaut
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:38:11 PM
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What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?
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maka
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:46:52 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?


Ummmh....wait for the explanation.
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alma
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:02:00 PM
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maka wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?


Ummmh....wait for the explanation.


kdf doesn't work in the usa so no need to spin this to death.
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madollar
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:07:05 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?

if you recall it was reported that is how some westgate attackers escaped that could have informed the lockdown at the us mall.Westgate will be used as a case study alot of lessons will be learnt
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TAZ
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:09:11 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?


Well our Police officers are highly trained they managed to free so many "hostages", remember!
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jaggernaut
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:22:20 PM
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madollar wrote:
With all those cops and the latest technology it took 6 hours to locate him .This guy could have inflicted maximum damage if he wanted to in those 6 hrs.The reality is that its very hard to police public areas like malls,airports etc No matter how prepared you are...

True, he could have killed very many people if he wanted to. Some witnesses are reporting that they were standing just 2ft from the gunman but he was only interested in shooting the CCTVs. Imagine standing just 2ft away from the al shabab terrorists at westgate?
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Impunity
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:24:42 PM
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TAZ wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?


Well our Police officers are highly trained they managed to free so many "hostages", remember!


Yeah, the jubilee policemen~!
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jaggernaut
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:29:10 PM
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alma wrote:
Before someone starts shouting up and down about how Kenya is at the us, please also report that they identified the name of the gunman, have even searched his house and reports just in say that he's dead. For real not the cow meat type at westgate.

Don't fail to put up photos of the hundreds of cops who were there in under 5 minutes and not a single army officer.

nkt!


Surely you can't compare a situation whereby a lone gunman enters a mall, shoots at a few cctv cameras while ignoring all the shoppers and then shoots himself dead with one where AK47 armed terrorists storm westgate and shoot everyone on sight.
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jaggernaut
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:32:18 PM
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madollar wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
What has surprised me is that the cops put the mall on lock down and weren't allowing anyone to leave. I thought the No.1 priority would have been to initiate a rescue and get as many people out as possible, like kenyan cops did at westgate? What if the gunman continued shooting?

if you recall it was reported that is how some westgate attackers escaped that could have informed the lockdown at the us mall.Westgate will be used as a case study alot of lessons will be learnt


What if the kenyan cops ordered a lock down of westgate and didn't allow anyone to leave the mall until they screened all those who were inside?
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