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vinii
#151 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 7:25:24 PM
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"@ntvkenya: RT @dennisokari: Prophetess Lucy Nduta finally speaks and her driver has even more juicier stories. Details @ntvkenya 9pm. #SeedsOfSin"
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The Clown
#152 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 7:50:09 PM
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vinii wrote:
"@ntvkenya: RT @dennisokari: Prophetess Lucy Nduta finally speaks and her driver has even more juicier stories. Details @ntvkenya 9pm. #SeedsOfSin"



This lady is neither a prophet nor a pastor. She is a convicted felon with a long history behind her. Why is she being used to make christians look bad? I insist that NTV needs to get a respectable member of the clergy to give their views on this issue.
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murchr
#153 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 7:51:26 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Matt 7:21-23

Now, I would like to ask them: Who are those who prophesy in the name of Jesus? Who are those who remove demons in the name of Jesus? Who are those who do many wonderful works in the name of Jesus?

Why Jesus will say to christians" get away from me I never knew you, you evil doers, YOU workers of lawlessness."

Jews, Muslims, Athiests, Buddhists, Hinus, and Agnostics on the day of judgement will not say Lord, Lord, Lord to Jesus, only CHRISTIANS will say that. So why would Jesus say "...I never knew you get away from me." According to these verses if you do things in the name of Jesus, you are wrong. Please Explain.

Jesus son of Mary is prophet of God, when he comes back he will be very mad and angry at chritians for following satan's cross and pagan worship instead of following his true message of worshiping God alone without association any one with Him in worship.

Wake up my friends before it is too late!


You are not coherent in what you say but I will try to explain.

Jesus in this case is speaking of days that were to come ( I believe its these days) When many will say that they are driving out demons in his name but they aint. He cautions his followers who later came to be called christian that Not all who call him lord lord will see the kingdom of heaven (fake pastors)but ONLY THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER simply only the one who does the will of God. The rest will be outcasts.

These fake pastors are even known to use uchawi in the name of miracles true or not? Lucy told people that they were cured of Aids in the name of Jesus right? Those are the people Jesus was refering to. Dont get confused...its very simple.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kysse
#154 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 9:07:37 PM
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uuuwi when did it get to 153? Laughing out loudly
Thread Discussed from Cannan,crossed the red sea and now in Egypt.
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kamundu
#155 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 9:40:27 PM
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@ alphadoti you really know how to twist the bible. Read the bible in its context my friend.
Peace in our Homeland.
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AlphDoti
#156 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 10:34:37 PM
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@kamundu heheh how do I twist the Bible? Is there anywhere I've lied?
1. Did Jesus say he was sent to the Israelites only in Matt 2:6?
2. Did Jesus commanded his disciples not to go to any other people other including Samarians, only to Israelites in Matt 10:5?
3. Did Jesus tell the non-Isralelite woman that his message was not for the dogs (non-Jews), but to the sheep in Matt 15:21?
4. Did Jesus tell the disciples that they will not have finished preaching his message to the Israelites before his 2nd coming in Matt 10:23?
If yes, then has Jesus (pbuh) come back? And if he has not come back, why are people preaching to non-Jews?
5. Did Jesus say he was only praying to Father for the Israelites (Waisraeli), not the whole world in John 17:9?
6. Did Jesus say for you to get eternal life, paradise, you must follow the wi of God, which means follow God's commandments?
7. Did Jesus say unless you're better than the Pharasees you cannot enter heaven? How can you be better than the Pharasees if you cannot follow the law better than them?

Can you answer these questions?
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The Clown
#157 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 10:44:34 PM
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kamundu wrote:
@ alphadoti you really know how to twist the bible. Read the bible in its context my friend.


Daktari, this is exactly the same issue I raised with @alphdoti in another thread. After which he went into a looooooong monologue whose contents were difficult to understand.
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murchr
#158 Posted : Monday, November 04, 2013 11:18:13 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
@kamundu heheh how do I twist the Bible? Is there anywhere I've lied?
1. Did Jesus say he was sent to the Israelites only in Matt 2:6?This is not Jesus talking but the chief priests who were summoned by King Herod Magi and they quote the prophesies about Jesus...read the bible ans stop insinuating events
2. Did Jesus commanded his disciples not to go to any other people other including Samarians, only to Israelites in Matt 10:5? Indeed the 12 disciples were sent to the 12 tribes of Israel3. Did Jesus tell the non-Isralelite woman that his message was not for the dogs (non-Jews), but to the sheep in Matt 15:21? If you are eager to read the whole chapter you will understand that Jesus wanted to know who badly this woman wanted to be healed verse 28;Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment4. Did Jesus tell the disciples that they will not have finished preaching his message to the Israelites before his 2nd coming in Matt 10:23?
If yes, then has Jesus (pbuh) come back? And if he has not come back, why are people preaching to non-Jews? Please dont even try to claim that Mohamed is Jesus reincarnated, the scriptures say it will be visible to all Matt 24:275. Did Jesus say he was only praying to Father for the Israelites (Waisraeli), not the whole world in John 17:9?
6. Did Jesus say for you to get eternal life, paradise, you must follow the wi of God, which means follow God's commandments? Ofcourse7. Did Jesus say unless you're better than the Pharasees you cannot enter heaven? How can you be better than the Pharasees if you cannot follow the law better than them? I think in the Gospel of Matthew Jesus has said enough about the hypocrisy of the Pharasees peruse those versesCan you answer these questions?


Finally Jesus, or Issa if you like says "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME - JOHN 14:6

Jesus was sent to the house of Israel yes, because he wanted to use them as vesels to spread the gospel. In Mark 16:15 ....And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.…
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Tokyo
#159 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:41:19 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
What I'm going to show you below is not my view.
This is the view of Jesus (may God bless him).

Matt 10.5: After Jesus had taught his twelve disciples, he sent them out, and commanded them saying: "Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter into any city of the Samaritans. Go only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel."

NOTE: A Gentile is anybody who is not Jewish. And a Gentile includes all other mankind. So if you are not a Jew or if you are not Israeli then Jesus himself tells you that he was not sent for you.

Jacob=God changed his name to "Israel" (Soma hapa Matt 2:6)
Sons of Jacob = 12 tribes of Israel
12 tribes of Israel = House of Jacob
House of Jacob = House of Israel
Israelites = Jews
Gentiles = not Israelites
Jang'o = not Israelite
Kaleo = not Israelite
Kyuk = not Israelite
Lunje = not Israelite
Kamba = not Israelite
Masai = not Israelite
Gentile = non Iraelite

I am sorry but that is the reality.


Totally agree with you Sheikh AlphaDoti about Imported religions which includes Islam
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Rankaz13
#160 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:19:40 AM
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I just had to share this:

Did we go there to seek His Face or seek Entertainment?!
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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