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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Careful about the chicken meat that finds its way to your plate. Read on: Shock of farmers using ARV drugs to 'fatten' chicken! .  Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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what is the science behind it? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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masukuma wrote:what is the science behind it? Doesn't make sense to me. ARVs? Protease inhibitors and multiple NRTI regimens cause redistribution of fats in humans, and that is after many months of use. Other classes i.e. NNRTI, Entry and Integrase inhibitors do not. So, some savvy farmers are giving Stavudine, Lopinavir and Ritonavir to broilers to fatten them?! Not scientifically possible. Anyway, unless you are eating the chicken raw, what are the potential side-effects to eating a fried/boiled chicken injected with antibiotics, steroids, hormones, etc? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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jguru wrote:masukuma wrote:what is the science behind it? Doesn't make sense to me. ARVs? Protease inhibitors and multiple NRTI regimens cause redistribution of fats in humans, and that is after many months of use. Other classes i.e. NNRTI, Entry and Integrase inhibitors do not. So, some savvy farmers are giving Stavudine, Lopinavir and Ritonavir to broilers to fatten them?! Not scientifically possible. Anyway, unless you are eating the chicken raw, what are the potential side-effects to eating a fried/boiled chicken injected with antibiotics, steroids, hormones, etc? i think its a case of tinkering with chemicals and when a certain effect is noted they attribute it to the said chemicals. the science behind fattening is for food storage and unless the ARVs are a rich source or nutrients or assist in absorption of nutrients...sioni how it can help. as you said ARVs are Protease inhibitors not sure how they themselves would help in fattening chicken. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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jguru wrote:masukuma wrote:what is the science behind it? Doesn't make sense to me. ARVs? Protease inhibitors and multiple NRTI regimens cause redistribution of fats in humans, and that is after many months of use. Other classes i.e. NNRTI, Entry and Integrase inhibitors do not. So, some savvy farmers are giving Stavudine, Lopinavir and Ritonavir to broilers to fatten them?! Not scientifically possible. Anyway, unless you are eating the chicken raw, what are the potential side-effects to eating a fried/boiled chicken injected with antibiotics, steroids, hormones, etc? I once saw an argument like this for GMO, if the argument is that cooking food kills all impurities and additives, then are nutrients spared? If they are not, what is the need to eat such food then?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Wanaitwa wakenya. I think what they may have observed is the apparent weight gain in HIV +ve patients who are on HAART, which is expected anyway as the viral load goes down and general immunity improves. So some might probably have extrapolated that to mean the drugs directly cause weight gain in the said patients and is now 'exploiting' the same ostensibly to 'fatten' chicken. @Mukiri, I have come across a similar argument in the past. Thing is though, exposure to sub-therapeutic doses of such drugs cannot be ruled out, with the consequent development of resistance to such drugs. At a place closer to me, there have been persistent claims of some commercial poultry farmers who inject their chicken with what I suspect to be some hormone in an apparent move to fatten and hasten their maturity. It however is quite secretive and I've so far not been able to identify the nature of whatever it is they inject their chicken with. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Rankaz13 wrote:Wanaitwa wakenya. I think what they may have observed is the apparent weight gain in HIV +ve patients who are on HAART, which is expected anyway as the viral load goes down and general immunity improves. So some might probably have extrapolated that to mean the drugs directly cause weight gain in the said patients and is now 'exploiting' the same ostensibly to 'fatten' chicken.
@Mukiri, I have come across a similar argument in the past. Thing is though, exposure to sub-therapeutic doses of such drugs cannot be ruled out, with the consequent development of resistance to such drugs.
At a place closer to me, there have been persistent claims of some commercial poultry farmers who inject their chicken with what I suspect to be some hormone in an apparent move to fatten and hasten their maturity. It however is quite secretive and I've so far not been able to identify the nature of whatever it is they inject their chicken with. Anything referred to as 'Grade' is a No-Go-Zone. Grade Chicken, Grade cows, sijui what-resistant crops etc. Some gene has to have been altered which consequently alters something in the person who consumes it. There is one thing I love about Salvation. It removes your mind from pollution the gutter, fun, illicit s*x, alcohol/drugs, the world etc and makes you focus on the important things. Things like your life, your health and those of your loved ones. Why do we have so many cancer cases? Why do we have funny funny diseases? Why do people worship doctors and relegate their responsibility for their own health? Like the other day, someone wanted to postpone nature so as to have some fun on holiday... future ramifications nayo? smh
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/25/2013 Posts: 552 Location: Asgard
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Its sad how guys are willing to do anything just to earn a quick buck. I feel bad for the kids who will grow up eating this shit. The government needs to act asap and punish these crooks
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Wanaitwa wakenya. I think what they may have observed is the apparent weight gain in HIV +ve patients who are on HAART, which is expected anyway as the viral load goes down and general immunity improves. So some might probably have extrapolated that to mean the drugs directly cause weight gain in the said patients and is now 'exploiting' the same ostensibly to 'fatten' chicken.
@Mukiri, I have come across a similar argument in the past. Thing is though, exposure to sub-therapeutic doses of such drugs cannot be ruled out, with the consequent development of resistance to such drugs.
At a place closer to me, there have been persistent claims of some commercial poultry farmers who inject their chicken with what I suspect to be some hormone in an apparent move to fatten and hasten their maturity. It however is quite secretive and I've so far not been able to identify the nature of whatever it is they inject their chicken with. Anything referred to as 'Grade' is a No-Go-Zone. Grade Chicken, Grade cows, sijui what-resistant crops etc. Some gene has to have been altered which consequently alters something in the person who consumes it. There is one thing I love about Salvation. It removes your mind from pollution the gutter, fun, illicit s*x, alcohol/drugs, the world etc and makes you focus on the important things. Things like your life, your health and those of your loved ones. Why do we have so many cancer cases? Why do we have funny funny diseases? Why do people worship doctors and relegate their responsibility for their own health? Like the other day, someone wanted to postpone nature so as to have some fun on holiday... future ramifications nayo? smh Are you saying you keep of anything "grade material"? Tell me how you would tell the difference unless you grow your own? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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maka wrote:Mukiri wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Wanaitwa wakenya. I think what they may have observed is the apparent weight gain in HIV +ve patients who are on HAART, which is expected anyway as the viral load goes down and general immunity improves. So some might probably have extrapolated that to mean the drugs directly cause weight gain in the said patients and is now 'exploiting' the same ostensibly to 'fatten' chicken.
@Mukiri, I have come across a similar argument in the past. Thing is though, exposure to sub-therapeutic doses of such drugs cannot be ruled out, with the consequent development of resistance to such drugs.
At a place closer to me, there have been persistent claims of some commercial poultry farmers who inject their chicken with what I suspect to be some hormone in an apparent move to fatten and hasten their maturity. It however is quite secretive and I've so far not been able to identify the nature of whatever it is they inject their chicken with. Anything referred to as 'Grade' is a No-Go-Zone. Grade Chicken, Grade cows, sijui what-resistant crops etc. Some gene has to have been altered which consequently alters something in the person who consumes it. There is one thing I love about Salvation. It removes your mind from pollution the gutter, fun, illicit s*x, alcohol/drugs, the world etc and makes you focus on the important things. Things like your life, your health and those of your loved ones. Why do we have so many cancer cases? Why do we have funny funny diseases? Why do people worship doctors and relegate their responsibility for their own health? Like the other day, someone wanted to postpone nature so as to have some fun on holiday... future ramifications nayo? smh Are you saying you keep of anything "grade material"? Tell me how you would tell the difference unless you grow your own? Thats why you should try farming... One can start as small as aquaponics on your veranda
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:maka wrote:Mukiri wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Wanaitwa wakenya. I think what they may have observed is the apparent weight gain in HIV +ve patients who are on HAART, which is expected anyway as the viral load goes down and general immunity improves. So some might probably have extrapolated that to mean the drugs directly cause weight gain in the said patients and is now 'exploiting' the same ostensibly to 'fatten' chicken.
@Mukiri, I have come across a similar argument in the past. Thing is though, exposure to sub-therapeutic doses of such drugs cannot be ruled out, with the consequent development of resistance to such drugs.
At a place closer to me, there have been persistent claims of some commercial poultry farmers who inject their chicken with what I suspect to be some hormone in an apparent move to fatten and hasten their maturity. It however is quite secretive and I've so far not been able to identify the nature of whatever it is they inject their chicken with. Anything referred to as 'Grade' is a No-Go-Zone. Grade Chicken, Grade cows, sijui what-resistant crops etc. Some gene has to have been altered which consequently alters something in the person who consumes it. There is one thing I love about Salvation. It removes your mind from pollution the gutter, fun, illicit s*x, alcohol/drugs, the world etc and makes you focus on the important things. Things like your life, your health and those of your loved ones. Why do we have so many cancer cases? Why do we have funny funny diseases? Why do people worship doctors and relegate their responsibility for their own health? Like the other day, someone wanted to postpone nature so as to have some fun on holiday... future ramifications nayo? smh Are you saying you keep of anything "grade material"? Tell me how you would tell the difference unless you grow your own? Thats why you should try farming... One can start as small as aquaponics on your veranda it takes a lot to impress me....when i first saw a working aquaponics setup - i was impressed!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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iller wrote:Its sad how guys are willing to do anything just to earn a quick buck. I feel bad for the kids who will grow up eating this shit. The government needs to act asap and punish these crooks The self-same gov't that sees no need to hire veterinary officers and agricultural extension officers even after training them? Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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