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Rank: Member Joined: 1/16/2010 Posts: 672 Location: nairobi
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please come here http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/
..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide. We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him .... Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men. Anyone ever been here?? What was your experience with us? Karibu. God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/9/2011 Posts: 786 Location: Mashinani
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Im Glad you are reading the bible. I will pray that God will open your mind to understand it Samaritans are belived to be descendants of Joseph. Please remember that israel was divided into two nations later, israel and judah Peace in our Homeland.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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If you want to know a tree the best way is look at its fruit. A mango tree is a mango tree because it yields mangoes and so is an orange tree. The problem with fruits is that they take time to mature and become evident so... People should take time before jumping on these fancy bandwagons. It is likely that the more traditional a church is the more boring it will be but the more sincere it will be as well. People should stop being swayed by every wind of doctrine. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:What I'm going to show you below is not my view. This is the view of Jesus (may God bless him).
Matt 10.5: After Jesus had taught his twelve disciples, he sent them out, and commanded them saying: "Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter into any city of the Samaritans. Go only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel."
NOTE: A Gentile is anybody who is not Jewish. And a Gentile includes all other mankind. So if you are not a Jew or if you are not Israeli then Jesus himself tells you that he was not sent for you.
Jacob=God changed his name to "Israel" (Soma hapa Matt 2:6) Sons of Jacob = 12 tribes of Israel 12 tribes of Israel = House of Jacob House of Jacob = House of Israel Israelites = Jews Gentiles = not Israelites Jang'o = not Israelite Kaleo = not Israelite Kyuk = not Israelite Lunje = not Israelite Kamba = not Israelite Masai = not Israelite Gentile = non Iraelite
I am sorry but that is the reality. Atleast you are reading The Holy Bible and not your fake secretive book by some fake prophet. I like what you'd said earlier in the thread 'Friday siku ya msikiti' Your only misfortune is that Christianity had not reached that part of Europe at the time your orphan decided to make a mockery of you people. If you can turn away from the greed of marrying any woman and simple divorce at will, you are more than welcome to any mainstream Church. Atleast you know where not to go. @Mukiri let's not go there. Let me give you some little background about people like you, and your evangelists who televengalising many on TV. 1. Jimmy Sweggat, a reknown Christian evangelist, had a laugh another time on TV at the expense of the Muslims. He said "Islam allows 4 wives, upto 4. Christianity only allows one, so I had to get the best on the first short". So you see he says Christianity allows only one and he had to choose the best. And you know what my friend, the best was not good enough! Look all these televengalist, all one by one they are all falling. 2. Reverend Marvin Gorman, he appears on television, televengalising millions, he was caught with a prostitute. 3. Reverend Jim Bakker, he was caught with Jessica Hahn, another prostitute. 4. Jimmy Swaggart, he goes to a prostitute average of twice a month, for his satisfaction. 5. Have you been reading the news in the last few weeks? Have you seen the way Catholic Church is on the limelight for all kinds of sexual scandals! I say you laugh at the Muslims, it is foolish, the laugh is on you.You see the Westerners who are bringing you all these nonesense have a problem, Americans, the British, the French, the Germans ... all of them. To this day, there is no solution in their book! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem. So my friend, see what the Quran says, please brother. In Islam, when you have a second wife, the woman get equal rights. She has a homour. She has respect. Nowhere in Islam say 4 wives is the best. But Islam gives permission. Infact, Quran is the only religious scripture on the face of Earth that says marry only one. You read other scripture, for Hindu, the Bible... no religious scripture say marry only one except the Quran. Now compare all those televangelists with the terrorists who lust after 40 virgins. Do you know the verse that talks about the speck in my eye and the log in yours? Yes, there are wolves in Christianity, I know you are celebrating now, but they are worse in islam.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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kamundu wrote:Im Glad you are reading the bible. I will pray that God will open your mind to understand it
Samaritans are belived to be descendants of Joseph. Please remember that israel was divided into two nations later, israel and judah Samaritans are the 9 tribes of Israel excluding Judah, Benjamin and Levi. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:please come here http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/
..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide. We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him .... Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men. Anyone ever been here?? What was your experience with us? Karibu. They should come to where I worship.So far no complain.http://www.purposecentre.org/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:kamundu wrote:Im Glad you are reading the bible. I will pray that God will open your mind to understand it
Samaritans are belived to be descendants of Joseph. Please remember that israel was divided into two nations later, israel and judah Samaritans are the 9 tribes of Israel excluding Judah, Benjamin and Levi. Nations, tribes exactly what I was saying. So tell us what Jesus meant here: Mat 10.5: After Jesus had taught his twelve disciples, he sent them out, and commanded them saying: Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter into any city of the Samaritans. Go only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/25/2013 Posts: 552 Location: Asgard
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its funny how the discussion in this thread has taken a detour to somewhere else, anywayz let me not stop you, continue with your bickering
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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mawinder wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:please come here http://www.fountaingatechurch.org/
..... we welcome you .... this is your family church in nairobi ..... can i here if any wazuan has ever been here .... we teach about giving but leave you and your heart and God to decide. We dont preach mbegu ..... we preach Christ and him alone .... we believe in giving but it is up to you to decide whether to give or not .... we dont kind of give to get but .... we give because we love God .... and we obey him .... Give us a try .... and as someone has said ..... there are still good men of God even in the midst of evil men. Anyone ever been here?? What was your experience with us? Karibu. They should come to where I worship.So far no complain.http://www.purposecentre.org/ Any church with the piksha of the 'apostle' and his wife as the home page aka main theme (and even the piksha of Christ conspicuously missing from the Church's homepage), hapo iko sida. It shows that the whole affair is all about the pastor and his beautiful wife (and kids) and not Christ. Surely how can a church not find space to put the piksha of Christ on its home page? How many times did you see Bishop Dingi's piksha pasted hapo Holy Family Basillica?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:Much Know wrote:Stick to the "traditional" churches, as someone pointed out, at least they have accountability and are structured, Methodist, Anglican Church, Catholic, Nazarene, PCEA, SDA e.t.c, the pastors have studied theology, they run accountable institutions like Universities, schools, hospitals, so you know your money reaches the needy, they dont harass you for tithe, however most people claim the services are "boring" so wanaenda kuchezewa drums and guiter's inside tents by some shiny, sly, colorful, charismatic pastors start landing on sheep even gay ones now. Church service is only two hours, surely one can pay attention for two hours in a good, traditional church service, sing hymns and some local choruses without "vibrating" and speaking in tongues, being psyched into a fake frenzy, just sit listen and go home...hio steam ingine peleka disco. There's nothing like 'traditional' Church. Even the Catholic has it's Charismatic movement. We are not talking about manners and respectability here, we are talking about life, suffering, confusion, thirst, hunger. All these people you're criticizing came from these 'traditional churches'. We need to stop lying to ourselves, and change our ways and thinking. @Tokyo has spoken well on this regard, only that we no longer need religion. Did Christ have one? Does God have a religion? Religion comes due to lack of understanding, and poor memory but now these no longer exist. Man is free, doors are wide open. Yet you are asking where to go! I tell you that we are all shackled up. Chained on the neck, chained on the wrists, and ankles. And our minds totally twisted. We have eyes but can't see, ears that don't hear. We are the people of darkness. But here, have some light, see the devil and repent and climb to heaven, 'church' will help no one. Traditional or post modern. @tycho and @Much the Quran in Chapter 3:84 says: "Say (O Muslims): - We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us - and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Yaqub (Jacob), - and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], - and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) - and Isa (Jesus), - and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. - We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)." Why am I inviting them to Islam? 1. Waislamu wanaaminmini M/Mungu, Vitabu vyake, Malaika, Mitume wake (Amini Yesu, Amini Ibrahim etc) 2. To avoid shaitan Quran 24:21 We are not told not to sin, but we are told not to go near sin. Prevention is better than cure Example: Do not stay with woman before marriage. Do not go to bars and drink. 3. Rights of women - Woman is maintained (housed, clothe etc by men), She works for herself, she takes care of her husband, children, home 4. All Muslims are brothers 5. Morals and ethics i.e. Nidamu/Respect 6. Modesty i.e. Clothing - Look at how others dress (Disrepectful clothing, short skirts, the boobs) - Look at Muslim woman cover herself - Many people respect Muslim women coz of her brain, not coz of her body 7. Muslims rarely commit sin!! I said rarely. They rarely steal, they rarely lie etc 'Muslims rarely steal' Hahaha! Who told you it's about reducing opportunities for 'theft' or 'sin'? Islam is just part of the darkness. A phase in the evolution of Man. Man is moving into a new species and not some species that lived years back. ION, I couldn't respond to the two posts you made on the other threads. I suspect admin 'assisted' them or something.
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