AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:jokes wrote:That's the question my six year son asked me and i don't have answer to it. So wazuans assist me with good answer, and none of that bible stuff please.
Evolution. And when you move back in time 'you' realize that 'God' is evolution in itself.
One problem you have to help the young man solve is that of understanding how religious language is structured and how it's used by the human species.
I would like to disprove evolution by @tycho using logic. I know logic is what you want to see, not mere believing.
@tycho, infinite regress is absurd, isn't? You agree that you cannot go back in infinite. Why do I say this?
If you say what caused the cause that caused the universe?
Then next we ask what caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the universe?
Then let's continue, what caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the universe?
Then let's carry on, what caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the cause that caused the universe?
I hope you get the trend? You cannot go back infinitely.
It's curious how you use 'logic'. And much as I get the gist of your argument, I can't help but ask what kind of logic this is. One that's too presumptuous of it's premises perhaps?
For example, could you be presuming that the 'universe' isn't 'infinite'? What does an expanding universe mean? What about 'expanding consciousness? Perhaps you'll deny such 'things'?
What does 'infinity' mean? If it means always having something 'ahead' or 'beyond' then the question of infinite regression shouldn't arise. Or if it arises it has a 'formula' or 'pattern'. Otherwise we'd all have to heed Wittgenstein's warning about speaking when there's nothing to say. Since we are saying we must come with formulae and methods, that also incorporate infinity.
This is crucial when we consider the meaning of the word 'God'. By talking about 'God' humans offer formulae that conform to the finite, and also involve the infinite. Though in our case 'God' is so finite. And therefore 'not God'. That's why you so believe your argument is a proof. It's not.