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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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There is not single lie Islam or myself has ever told you. There's no single advice I have given that is not asking you to enjoin the good and forbid the evil. Whenever I address the religios of you, I support it with evidence. For the non-religious, I've always supported my advice with scientific fact.
For your information, it was reported in 1979, TIME magazine that, more than 60,000 books have been written against Islam in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE. That means more than one book is written everyday against Islam and the holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
And as we speak, there is viral propaganda against Islam in the media, both INternational and local. In international newspapers and magazines, on radio stations and satellite TV channels. The media is attacking Islam.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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SMH, enough with the victim mentality! I'm sure you are aware of the horrid crimes that are being committed in Islamic countries against people who are not Muslim, if there ever were victims its them. Of all the supposed books written against Islam, I haven't read not one!! I'm sure they are there, but my dislike for Islam does not stem from them. My dislike for Islam stems from its very followers, who in this day still hold archaic beliefs like calling someone a Kaffir just because they don't believe in your God, then in extreme situations causing bodily injury and/or to those people. Address the issue of mass killings in South Sudan, In Egypt even at home in Mombasa? Stop playing the victim card. Your first sentence is a lie in of itself. I called you out for stating that Jesus and the prophets in the old testament were Muslim, now you are hiding behind the 'Islam is under attack' lie. We are not that ignorant to just believe propaganda, just because it is very well packaged. nd by the way this is not to say that Christianity is better, I am a strong critic of Christianity, but there are some huge gaping holes that I see in Islam.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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There is something in Islam that makes its followers militant. Just what is it! If you dont believe me, try critising it in public and report here if you will still be alive. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Ngalaka wrote:
There is something in Islam that makes its followers militant. Just what is it! If you dont believe me, try critising it in public and report here if you will still be alive.
 You remember them chanting "death to cartoonist" because of the cartoon published some time back? I think to many of them, death SHOULD be the ultimate punishment... RINK
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/18/2012 Posts: 235
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Ngalaka wrote:
There is something in Islam that makes its followers militant. Just what is it! If you dont believe me, try critising it in public and report here if you will still be alive.
Am not a muslim but..Aouuuch
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Tokyo wrote:@ AlphaDoti is good with spinning around to justify superiority of his religion. @Tokyo, @Radio, @namwire, @Mukiri, @guka, @nandwa I'm not saying we're better. I agree with you that God only can judge a person. What I've done in this forum is pick up the good things of Christinaity. I'm trying to tell the Christians that actually if you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), it is good. I'm trying to uplift them. You've misunderstood my posts. What I'm trying to say whenever I make statements is that if Christian means a person who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Then the Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves. I can mention the verse of Quran that says: " ...come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him..." Quran 3.64 I never said that we are better. We are following your Bible better. This is what I'm saying. Many times, I'm telling the Christians why don't you follow your Bible also? At least follow what is common. I'm trying to pick up the good points of the Bible. That if your Bible says that be modest. The women should cover their heads. The woman should wear the veil. She should be modest. I'm asking them why are you not modest? Where am I trying to proof that we are better than them? I'm trying to say at least let us agree to follow what is common. This is not my advice. This is what God has told us. God is telling you to do this. If you say it is wrong then you are saying God is wrong. So I have to convey the message to non-Muslims that we acome to common term. The best term is we worship only one God.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:[quote=Tokyo What I'm trying to say whenever I make statements is that if Christian means a person who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). @Alphadoti 1. What is is this with 'peace be upon Him".Peace never left Jesus for a moment for heaven's sake!.If peace left Mohammed for some reasons,let Muslim keep their slogans.Christians are ever peace and have never been militant. 2. Do you still believe Jesus was a Muslim even though you are aware that Mohammedanism (Islam) only happened over 650 years after the crucification and rise of Jesus? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Njung'e wrote:AlphDoti wrote:[quote=Tokyo What I'm trying to say whenever I make statements is that if Christian means a person who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). @Alphadoti 1. What is is this with 'peace be upon Him".Peace never left Jesus for a moment for heaven's sake!.If peace left Mohammed for some reasons,let Muslim keep their slogans.Christians are ever peace and have never been militant. 2. Do you still believe Jesus was a Muslim even though you are aware that Mohammedanism (Islam) only happened over 650 years after the crucification and rise of Jesus? @guka first I must say I apprecite the way you've put across your concerns this time round. Now, let me answer your first question where you asked why do we have to repeat "peace be upon him" (in Arabic "sallalahu aleihi wa salam") This is a prayer addressed to God. Becausse the messengers including Jesus Christ and Muhammad and all other messengers (peace be upon them all  ) have done so much favour to us and to all the mankind. This favour we cannot repay. We cannot pay them back in any way. All we can do is the prayer. So to us Muslims, that is the prayer that reminds us. So do you feel hesitant even to say that short prayer? It makes that pain in your heart To us Muslims we have been commanded by Allah to do this: Quran 33:56: " ...O you that believe! Send your blessings on him, and salute him with all respect." There is a logic to this:When Salah is mentioned for somebody to Allah, (i.e. when Allah does "Salah" on someone) it means: 1. Allah loves that person. 2. Allah praises that person. 3. Allah sends blessings, His Pleasure and Mercy on that person. Same case for us to that person.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Tokyo wrote:@ AlphaDoti is good with spinning around to justify superiority of his religion. @Tokyo, @Radio, @namwire, @Mukiri, @guka, @nandwa I'm not saying we're better. I agree with you that God only can judge a person. What I've done in this forum is pick up the good things of Christinaity. I'm trying to tell the Christians that actually if you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), it is good. I'm trying to uplift them. You've misunderstood my posts. What I'm trying to say whenever I make statements is that if Christian means a person who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Then the Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves. I can mention the verse of Quran that says: " ...come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him..." Quran 3.64 I never said that we are better. We are following your Bible better. This is what I'm saying. Many times, I'm telling the Christians why don't you follow your Bible also? At least follow what is common. I'm trying to pick up the good points of the Bible. That if your Bible says that be modest. The women should cover their heads. The woman should wear the veil. She should be modest. I'm asking them why are you not modest? Where am I trying to proof that we are better than them? I'm trying to say at least let us agree to follow what is common. This is not my advice. This is what God has told us. God is telling you to do this. If you say it is wrong then you are saying God is wrong. So I have to convey the message to non-Muslims that we acome to common term. The best term is we worship only one God. You set out as though you were going to address concerns raised in my post #57, but the attempt ended up as a far cry from How come whenever your colleagues commit heinous crime in the name of their faith (happens frequently) or like the case of forbidding Women from driving you and co. are too quick to conveniently cry our misinterpretation! The general feeling in your ranks whenever your agents hit a Western interest, is one of celebration!  Nandwa wrote:radio wrote:Nabwire wrote:If there is one thing I know for sure, its that I will NEVER convert to Islam. What I find interesting is how people like Alphadoti will try to sugarcoat things to make Islam more acceptable, like the other day he tried to tell us that Jesus was a Muslim and so were all the prophets in the old testament, the nerve! Me neither! Never ever! Especially after watching this fellow demonize all others except the glorious virtues of Islam and Muslims. Oh crap! It is an obvious FACT that the world would be a BETTER place without Islam! How true! These guys have issues Whenever their people bomb or otherwise engage in random killing a la Westgate, they always - albeit half-heartedly, come out to tell the world that their Religion is a peaceful one, you know misinterpretation, bla bla bla. Now the case of Saudia banning their Women from driving has also been characterized as yet another case of misinterpretation! Does that qualify this faith as the most misinterpreted religion! We have Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism Judaism, amongst many other religions. How come, as a faith it has produced the vast majority, if not the sole source of persons killing in the name of religion. It is an open secret that whenever the Al qaidas of this World attack a Western interest, many of its faithful across the globe rejoice. Remember 9/11. Someone needs to debrief these guys to expunge their victim mentality and if we are to keep the World safe and less intrusive. Think of all the thinning civil liberties the world over due to these guys’ penchant for blowing us up to smithereens. Accessing Airports, Boarding planes, getting into Hotels/Restaurants, Shopping Malls, Pubs/Discotheques, hell even churches are not safe anymore - life on earth is just a pain thanks to these guys. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Tokyo wrote:@ AlphaDoti is good with spinning around to justify superiority of his religion. @Tokyo, @Radio, @namwire, @Mukiri, @guka, @nandwa I'm not saying we're better. I agree with you that God only can judge a person. What I've done in this forum is pick up the good things of Christinaity. I'm trying to tell the Christians that actually if you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), it is good. I'm trying to uplift them. You've misunderstood my posts. What I'm trying to say whenever I make statements is that if Christian means a person who follow the teaching of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Then the Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves. I can mention the verse of Quran that says: " ...come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him..." Quran 3.64 I never said that we are better. We are following your Bible better. This is what I'm saying. Many times, I'm telling the Christians why don't you follow your Bible also? At least follow what is common. I'm trying to pick up the good points of the Bible. That if your Bible says that be modest. The women should cover their heads. The woman should wear the veil. She should be modest. I'm asking them why are you not modest? Where am I trying to proof that we are better than them? I'm trying to say at least let us agree to follow what is common. This is not my advice. This is what God has told us. God is telling you to do this. If you say it is wrong then you are saying God is wrong. So I have to convey the message to non-Muslims that we acome to common term. The best term is we worship only one God. You set out as though you were going to address concerns raised in my post #57, but the attempt ended up as a far cry from How come whenever your colleagues commit heinous crime in the name of their faith (happens frequently) or like the case of forbidding Women from driving you and co. are too quick to conveniently cry our misinterpretation! The general feeling in your ranks whenever your agents hit a Western interest, is one of celebration! First, let us not make this a religous issue. We should treat every criminal involved in criminal acts as a criminal and must face law, regardless of religion. Muslims do not support criminal activities, the faith condems killing of innocent. I can repeat it again that as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram. THose who claim to do criminals acts in God's name are not practising Islam, just thesame way those who claim to be Christian, do things Christ (pbuh) condemned. I cannot judge the whole population of Christians because Wanugu is killing people. No! It's very clear in Quran 5:32, you cannot kill innocent human being. So what should we do about these people who do that, the scholars of Islam say they should be punished, they are criminals and the aim is to find them and kill them as criminals. But we do not accuse people without evidence. And certainly we do no indict a country because someone is living there whom someone else feels he is indicted. Secondly, but if you want to make this religious. Have not Jews and Christians also done those things? And are they not also doing those things? Yes they are. As I said, a criminal is a criminal. A sinner is a sinner. It does not matter what you are. But you know what? You know and I know that you would never see in the media a Christian pedophile. - You would never see a pedophile called a " Christian Pedophile". - You would never see a murderer called a " Christian Murderer", or a " Jewish murderer". - recently the church shooting, killing pasters, you never heard anyone saying " Christian terrorist" Wanugu was never called Christian murderer. KDF and its mass killing of hostages after collapsing the floors was never called Christian Terrorist organisation. US troops in Iraq were not called Christian terrorist organization. Yet infact they have committed some of the greatest crimes. But they are not referred to as Christian terorrists. Then I ask why?Why when a non-Christian is accused, maybe not even convicted, but if he only accussed of something, he is called a terrorist. Why because the media is controlled by people who want to malign Muslims and Islam. And I say that is unfair. Thirdly, if you insist on this, then we take this to another level... Up to you.
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