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BOC +7.76% top gainer?
streetwise
#1 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 3:08:31 PM
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What is the story with BOC top gainer today ama after effects of Carbacid
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 3:14:28 PM
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streetwise wrote:
What is the story with BOC top gainer today ama after effects of Carbacid


Just a measly 100 shares traded!!
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h2s
#3 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 3:30:45 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
streetwise wrote:
What is the story with BOC top gainer today ama after effects of Carbacid


Just a measly 100 shares traded!!

Someone throwing a bait?
streetwise
#4 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 3:34:15 PM
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Is it possible for the same guy to issue a buy order and sell order may be through different broker for same amounts..this would be interesting
Pesa Nane
#5 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 7:17:12 PM
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h2s wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
streetwise wrote:
What is the story with BOC top gainer today ama after effects of Carbacid


Just a measly 100 shares traded!!

Someone throwing a bait?


A few more repeat 100-share trades at elevated prices and entry positions are blocked (Common problem with illiquid counters). Sad
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2013 9:06:15 PM
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100 shares! That is pathetic yet it is a market trade. Also note that 100 shares @ 125 = 12,500 but 100 Olympia = 100 @ 4 = 400 so 3,000 Olympia is the equivalent of 100 BOC.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#7 Posted : Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:59:21 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
100 shares! That is pathetic yet it is a market trade. Also note that 100 shares @ 125 = 12,500 but 100 Olympia = 100 @ 4 = 400 so 3,000 Olympia is the equivalent of 100 BOC.


I find it irrational where 12k changing hands results in tens of millions in market value gains!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:18:31 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
100 shares! That is pathetic yet it is a market trade. Also note that 100 shares @ 125 = 12,500 but 100 Olympia = 100 @ 4 = 400 so 3,000 Olympia is the equivalent of 100 BOC.

I find it irrational where 12k changing hands results in tens of millions in market value gains!
Well, that is the 'market' price determined by the exchange of a portion of the shares (bids/offers available) on the 'market' just as a fraction of land or houses or flats changes hands annually yet the 'market price' is based on these trades.
Even Safcom with 40,000,000,000 (MV 363 Billion) shares had less than 11mn (less than KShs 100mn) shares traded on Friday. 11,000,000/40,000,000,000 = 0.0275% were traded & that changes the Market Value.

And there are some days when even fewer than 11mn Safaricom are traded.

Back to BOC. You like other market participants have a choice to buy/sell shares. If you think 125 is too high a price, then sell. If you think 125 is low, then you buy or bid a higher price to attract more sellers. Perhaps the higher price set will attract more offers which then might be picked up by more buyers.

I looked into the details (Bids & Offers) & it turns out Buyers (Bids) want BOC at lower prices 110-115 but the Only Seller (Offer) wants 125. Eventually, one of them will give in and a lot depends on BOC's performance (EPS) in 2H or potential for growth in years to come. The 1H 2013 performance (EPS) was nothing to write home about.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
dunkang
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:24:36 AM
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BOC and Carbacid shares are just too troublesome to buy and sell for a trader that i am.

Placing an order of 5,000 shares makes the demand so strong, that the price jumps up and you miss your set price. Likewise for selling, you try to sell the 5,000 shares and there is an oversupply, prices tumble.

The only trick is buying and/or selling in small amounts, but surely, do i have the patience.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

guru267
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:33:26 PM
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I want these shares at 115...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Horton
#11 Posted : Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:03:32 PM
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ermmmm....sorry for crashing the party this late; What other company gives a Net margin of over 40%? Surely that should stand for something?
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