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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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stock.enigma wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:@mkeiyd, true, Total is in loss territory because I bought them eons ago at ksh 31 and is holding for sentimental value (won a prize once at the Total Motor Show). As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 and reloaded again at ksh 8.05 - ksh 8.70. @gordon, when was KK at Ksh 5.80? and when did you dump at Ksh 17? @stock.enigma. Sometime in 2009 it went below 4 bob, but i have no recollection of it hitting 17 bob. @gordon. Clarify!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mkeiyd wrote:stock.enigma wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:@mkeiyd, true, Total is in loss territory because I bought them eons ago at ksh 31 and is holding for sentimental value (won a prize once at the Total Motor Show). As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 and reloaded again at ksh 8.05 - ksh 8.70. @gordon, when was KK at Ksh 5.80? and when did you dump at Ksh 17? @stock.enigma. Sometime in 2009 it went below 4 bob, but i have no recollection of it hitting 17 bob. @gordon. Clarify! During the puma deal last year it hit 17.00. Just last year. @gordon. you must have a very strong crystal ball The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Aguytrying wrote:
During the puma deal last year it hit 17.00. Just last year.
@gordon. you must have a very strong crystal ball
I thought the highest was 16. 3rd qtr rally should propel Kk to 10 establishing support there.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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is it time to forget about total and jump into kk or viceversa seems the market today is on a slow session
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 Why is it that I am skeptical of investors who claim to have got in at the all time low price and sell out at the all time high price? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Metasploit wrote:Aguytrying wrote:mlennyma wrote:The game changes easily,and i may have timed this monkey right. Haha @monkey. In the NSE every dog has its day, from the looks of things we are few in KK, ppl are so quiet. Im seeing 9.50 smashed by 3.00pm. Aguy,9.50 could have easily been smashed today had not those 4 guys/splits put in a sell of 341,000 shares. Means sellers will increase at 9.50 and spoil the good demand-supply imbalance.Tough resistance at 9.50 Bidders who had put a huge bid at 8.00 have disappeared.If we dont have a volume spike today the price will slowly go back to sub 9.00
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Metasploit wrote:Metasploit wrote:Aguytrying wrote:mlennyma wrote:The game changes easily,and i may have timed this monkey right. Haha @monkey. In the NSE every dog has its day, from the looks of things we are few in KK, ppl are so quiet. Im seeing 9.50 smashed by 3.00pm. Aguy,9.50 could have easily been smashed today had not those 4 guys/splits put in a sell of 341,000 shares. Means sellers will increase at 9.50 and spoil the good demand-supply imbalance.Tough resistance at 9.50 Bidders who had put a huge bid at 8.00 have disappeared.If we dont have a volume spike today the price will slowly go back to sub 9.00 you called it bana. heavy supply at 9.50. I guess the ride up will take time. I could always buy more during that time esp sub 9.00 The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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guru267 wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 Why is it that I am skeptical of investors who claim to have got in at the all time low price and sell out at the all time high price? Got KK at ksh 58 pre split. Have had bad days at the office too, like holding a zillion kq at average ksh 45. Not to mention Lonrho Motors where I have framed the share cert.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Metasploit wrote:Metasploit wrote:Aguytrying wrote:mlennyma wrote:The game changes easily,and i may have timed this monkey right. Haha @monkey. In the NSE every dog has its day, from the looks of things we are few in KK, ppl are so quiet. Im seeing 9.50 smashed by 3.00pm. Aguy,9.50 could have easily been smashed today had not those 4 guys/splits put in a sell of 341,000 shares. Means sellers will increase at 9.50 and spoil the good demand-supply imbalance.Tough resistance at 9.50 Bidders who had put a huge bid at 8.00 have disappeared.If we dont have a volume spike today the price will slowly go back to sub 9.00 Looks like we are heading there. Somebody is dumping 317,300 shares @9.05.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:guru267 wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 Why is it that I am skeptical of investors who claim to have got in at the all time low price and sell out at the all time high price? Got KK at ksh 58 pre split. Have had bad days at the office too, like holding a zillion kq at average ksh 45. Not to mention Lonrho Motors where I have framed the share cert. Aren't share certificates illegal starting tomorrow?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:guru267 wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:As for KK, bought at ksh 5.80, dumped at ksh 17 Why is it that I am skeptical of investors who claim to have got in at the all time low price and sell out at the all time high price? Got KK at ksh 58 pre split. Have had bad days at the office too, like holding a zillion kq at average ksh 45. Not to mention Lonrho Motors where I have framed the share cert. Aren't share certificates illegal starting tomorrow?? Until the Company's Act bans them, then no. The CDSC is just using muscle but it I highly doubt it can invalidate the shares in the form of share certificates. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Aguytrying wrote:
you called it bana. heavy supply at 9.50. I guess the ride up will take time. I could always buy more during that time esp sub 9.00
@Aguy, You have your wish. Weak demand with 3x supply. Will the next upward momentum be the real thing? I would think so. At 8.30 & below, i add some more.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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KK must overcome the 10 - 11 range before things look up. Still a bear counter. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mkeiyd wrote:Aguytrying wrote:
you called it bana. heavy supply at 9.50. I guess the ride up will take time. I could always buy more during that time esp sub 9.00
@Aguy, You have your wish. Weak demand with 3x supply. Will the next upward momentum be the real thing? I would think so. At 8.30 & below, i add some more. I've placed an order at 8.05 to be corrected to 8.00 tomorrow. its always good to buy more for less of a good company Thanks to Jana's VWAP of 8.70 ive adjusted my order to 8.00. Abit risky, but yet again im only topping up so i can take the chance of the sellers coming to me. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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A large fund exiting the market is responsible for KK's woes. This fund I suspect is just managing its risks in frontier markets. Other than that, I highly suspect KK may just surprise on the upside profitwise in February next year.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Kausha wrote:A large fund exiting the market is responsible for KK's woes. This fund I suspect is just managing its risks in frontier markets. Other than that, I highly suspect KK may just surprise on the upside profitwise in February next year. They better be done by mid Dec for the journey up to begin. I see @hisah is preparing his drums for the music.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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mkeiyd wrote:Kausha wrote:A large fund exiting the market is responsible for KK's woes. This fund I suspect is just managing its risks in frontier markets. Other than that, I highly suspect KK may just surprise on the upside profitwise in February next year. They better be done by mid Dec for the journey up to begin. I see @hisah is preparing his drums for the music. Good for us! They should sell heavily so the price gets to 8. I noticed the buyers come out in force at 8 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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VituVingiSana wrote:mkeiyd wrote:Kausha wrote:A large fund exiting the market is responsible for KK's woes. This fund I suspect is just managing its risks in frontier markets. Other than that, I highly suspect KK may just surprise on the upside profitwise in February next year. They better be done by mid Dec for the journey up to begin. I see @hisah is preparing his drums for the music. Good for us! They should sell heavily so the price gets to 8. I noticed the buyers come out in force at 8 @VVS wishes are horses here! I suspect this seller is selling to the average market price and I suspect they could be about to empty their accounts.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/14/2007 Posts: 111
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Noticed last comments on KK on wazua was nov 7th .. Price swing btwn 8.95 - 9.20 Even In The Most Severe Drought In The Jungle Lions Will Never Feed On Grass.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mwekez@ji wrote:@murchr, its buy time for KK. Breakdown welcomed  @Mweke you know those who bought KQ in Sept when we had this conversation are already 40%+ up. Anyway, am looking at oil stocks and am following this talk and noted the following in the Presidents report Quote:...The capacity of National Oil Corporation should be developed to become a strategic player upstream and downstream in the oil and gas sector, in the manner of PETRONAS Malaysia. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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