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Japan... dying.
AlphDoti
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:10:56 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
The devil hates marriages

Yes indeed @Mukiri.

I think Kenya and Africa as a whole will follow soon, because of what we know best - copying the West. The last time we talked about population, some even in Wazua are still alone in their cribs even into their 30s.

I pointed out the current demographic realities.

Why did I say we copy-cats of the West? Just aping the fading family tabias!

There is no chance to reverse the trend in Japan.
Because people are now too busy chasing the world than having meaninful family life.

For your information, fertility rate in native French, Britons, Americans etc has gone down, average of 1 child per couple. Pay attention, let me show you what is happening:
- if a set of two parents, have one child, they end up with half as many children as parents (2 -> 1)
- if those children have one child, then there are one-fourth as many grand children as grand parents (4 -> 2 -> 1)

Now if a million babies are born in these countries in a year, it is hard to get two million adults in the workforce in the years that follow! That's why you see inward migration into their countries to meet required workforce in their countries.

That's why you see churches, closing down because only the old are going to church. The young are businy with rap, fashion and modernism! As a result, the churches sell their land and guess who is buying? Do you blame them?
Tokyo
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:08:14 AM
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Joined: 10/9/2006
Posts: 1,502
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The devil hates marriages

Yes indeed @Mukiri.

I think Kenya and Africa as a whole will follow soon, because of what we know best - copying the West. The last time we talked about population, some even in Wazua are still alone in their cribs even into their 30s.

I pointed out the current demographic realities.

Why did I say we copy-cats of the West? Just aping the fading family tabias!

There is no chance to reverse the trend in Japan.
Because people are now too busy chasing the world than having meaninful family life.

For your information, fertility rate in native French, Britons, Americans etc has gone down, average of 1 child per couple. Pay attention, let me show you what is happening:
- if a set of two parents, have one child, they end up with half as many children as parents (2 -> 1)
- if those children have one child, then there are one-fourth as many grand children as grand parents (4 -> 2 -> 1)

Now if a million babies are born in these countries in a year, it is hard to get two million adults in the workforce in the years that follow! That's why you see inward migration into their countries to meet required workforce in their countries.

That's why you see churches, closing down because only the old are going to church. The young are businy with rap, fashion and modernism! As a result, the churches sell their land and guess who is buying? Do you blame them?



Bring forth what you can effectively manage. Otherwise it's a danger and nuisance to others
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Tokyo
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:14:57 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Akina Tokyo and others will move there. Pakistanis, Africans, South Americans and in a couple of years population will kick back up. Human beings cannot just die out but there will be some changes after all changes are the only thing to expect!


Japanese are resilient people. They are capable of solving their issues.
Demographic challenges are universal. It's worse in S Korea, E Europe, Russia
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2012
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:59:39 AM
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I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...

BBI will solve it
:)
jaggernaut
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:44:22 AM
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2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.
Pedes
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:49:44 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.


Some countries (Germany, USA, Britain) recognized these and started having immigration laws that favour young proffessionals. I wonder does Japan have similar laws?
If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
jaggernaut
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:59:36 AM
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Pedes wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.


Some countries (Germany, USA, Britain) recognized these and started having immigration laws that favour young proffessionals. I wonder does Japan have similar laws?


Sure. Most of the foreign students who earn their PhDs in US, Canada, UK etc are issued ('enticed') with permanent residency (green cards) and thus end up working at research institutions/universities in those countries. This ensures a continuous supply of highly skilled manpower. Japan is quite closed.
Tokyo
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:28:24 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Pedes wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.


Some countries (Germany, USA, Britain) recognized these and started having immigration laws that favour young proffessionals. I wonder does Japan have similar laws?


Sure. Most of the foreign students who earn their PhDs in US, Canada, UK etc are issued ('enticed') with permanent residency (green cards) and thus end up working at research institutions/universities in those countries. This ensures a continuous supply of highly skilled manpower. Japan is quite closed.


I disagree. It's an open accommodating society
work to prosper
majimaji
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:39:33 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Pedes wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.


Some countries (Germany, USA, Britain) recognized these and started having immigration laws that favour young proffessionals. I wonder does Japan have similar laws?


Sure. Most of the foreign students who earn their PhDs in US, Canada, UK etc are issued ('enticed') with permanent residency (green cards) and thus end up working at research institutions/universities in those countries. This ensures a continuous supply of highly skilled manpower. Japan is quite closed.


I disagree. It's an open accommodating society

tell us how open it is
jaggernaut
#20 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:57:23 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Pedes wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
2012 wrote:
I thought this thread was about Japan dying technologically as a technology superpower as they are losing ground big time to S Korea, China and India in Asia. Anyway.... off topic...


An ageing/dying population isn't bound to be very innovative technologically as compared to one with younger/sharper minds.


Some countries (Germany, USA, Britain) recognized these and started having immigration laws that favour young proffessionals. I wonder does Japan have similar laws?


Sure. Most of the foreign students who earn their PhDs in US, Canada, UK etc are issued ('enticed') with permanent residency (green cards) and thus end up working at research institutions/universities in those countries. This ensures a continuous supply of highly skilled manpower. Japan is quite closed.


I disagree. It's an open accommodating society


How many Kenyans have been issued with permanent residency in Japan after finishing their studies.....or how many have become citizens?
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