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EAC...TZ in a dilemma???
Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:49:23 AM
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The EAC animal existed in the seventies, but its death was largely due to the big brother fellow thoughtless actions....Sad

Its revival in mid nineties and the actual glueing of the bond in mid last decade saw some shafts of light of the eventual integration, but this was not without some hiccups and constrictions, again being brought about by the big brother...Sad Sad

Recently, there were some agreements that were supposed to be made in line with the EAC spirit and purpose which the big brother deliberately chose not to participate, and now that those who participated have decided to go on with the plans as agreed, Tanzania is now shouting on top of their voice on the roof top alleging illegality!Sad Sad Sad

Now, can someone tell these fellows that their EAC derailment tactics and lame excuses are not effective anymore and that the interested parties are moving on with or without them...smile

Also see the link...

Hutereza ni kuanguka...NKT!!!ABK!!!Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
masukuma
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24:31 PM
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lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Njung'e
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:20:58 PM
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TZ has been uncoperative in EAC issues and they were going to drag us behind forever until the M7,UK and PK called their bluff.It's good they realise we mean business and i don't think there is anyone in the region who cares about their cry.TZ is on average a small economy when compared with other more interested countries such SS,Ethiopia and Eastern DRC. We have every right to show them the middle finger!
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iller
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:26:32 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
TZ has been uncoperative in EAC issues and they were going to drag us behind forever until the M7,UK and PK called their bluff.It's good they realise we mean business and i don't think there is anyone in the region who cares about thei cry.TZ is on average a small economy when compared with the other more interested countries such SS,Ethiopia and Eastern DRC,then we have every right to show them the middle finger!

Applause it couldn't have been said better
limanika
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:38:39 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
The EAC animal existed in the seventies, but its death was largely due to the big brother fellow thoughtless actions....Sad

Its revival in mid nineties and the actual glueing of the bond in mid last decade saw some shafts of light of the eventual integration, but this was not without some hiccups and constrictions, again being brought about by the big brother...Sad Sad

Recently, there were some agreements that were supposed to be made in line with the EAC spirit and purpose which the big brother deliberately chose not to participate, and now that those who participated have decided to go on with the plans as agreed, Tanzania is now shouting on top of their voice on the roof top alleging illegality!Sad Sad Sad

Now, can someone tell these fellows that their EAC derailment tactics and lame excuses are not effective anymore and that the interested parties are moving on with or without them...smile

Also see the link...

Hutereza ni kuanguka...NKT!!!ABK!!!Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

This belongs to investor section, and had been discussed here:
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=25799
harrydre
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:54:50 AM
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masukuma wrote:
lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.


just why do you think we need them? I say we move on and let them catch up later. They obviously didn't learn with their ujamaa villages
i.am.back!!!!
Mukiri
#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:25:03 AM
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harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.


just why do you think we need them? I say we move on and let them catch up later. They obviously didn't learn with their ujamaa villages

We are our brother's keeper.
No man is an island
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

TZ is our brother, I don't like this attitude of 'We are strong, we can do without them!' Some of the best fertilizer in the region comes from TZ and I enjoy Zanzibar just like the next fellow.

Proverbs 19:21
Wendz
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:05:24 AM
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masukuma wrote:
lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.


Wrong. These fellows just have no interest in joining other nations. You ask yourself, why arent they members of COMESA? they'll just derail us with their indecision. they think everyone wants a piece of their land. if they dont feel they'll benefit, why bother in the first place then cry wolf when people get committed to the course?
Wendz
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:11:54 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.


just why do you think we need them? I say we move on and let them catch up later. They obviously didn't learn with their ujamaa villages

We are our brother's keeper.
No man is an island
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

TZ is our brother, I don't like this attitude of 'We are strong, we can do without them!' Some of the best fertilizer in the region comes from TZ and I enjoy Zanzibar just like the next fellow.


You miss the point... if they dont want to be part of us, then they wont be part of the link so they wont be the weakest. why force yourself to be a brother's keeper if the same brother behaves in a way to suggest he doesnt need your keeping? Mtoto akililia wembe, mpe.... wa henga wakanena wakiwa hapo Dar!
Kaigangio
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:01:32 AM
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masukuma wrote:
lets face it... if we are to become a region block of any kind of repute we need TZ in it. I suggest we start talks and draw them in. Who says that they cannot be in SADC and EAC? tuwavute ndugu zetu bwana! Diplomacy is required in this context lets look at ways of including them in existing mechanisms - I believe everyone can be happy in this.


Your arguement here is fallacious...

Do you know why the original East African Community collapsed?? here are some of the reasons:

1. Lack of strong political will

2. Lack of strong participation of the private sector and civil society in the co-operation activities

3. The continued disproportionate sharing of benefits of the Community among the Partner
States due to their differences in their levels of development and lack of adequate policies to address this situation

I believe the revamped Co-operation has now addressed the above failures, however TZ is still suffering from (1) and (2) above...

The best remedy to draw them in is actually not to beg them, but to show them that it can be done without them. It would therefore be upto them to join the others after all the doors will not be shut when it takes off...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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