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tycho
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:06:43 AM
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If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?

Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?
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marko
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:13:40 PM
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tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?

Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?












Is it? I have tried looking for an answer for you but I cannot. Your questions are too open ended. Ask God. Am sure He will give you an appropriate answer.
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washiku
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29:17 PM
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tycho
#4 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:48:46 PM
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marko wrote:
tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?

Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?












Is it? I have tried looking for an answer for you but I cannot. Your questions are too open ended. Ask God. Am sure He will give you an appropriate answer.


Thank you. But what if I posed the question to God, and he gave me the answer, would I be able to communicate it?
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Angelica _ann
#5 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:50:42 PM
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washiku wrote:
Sasa kama @Tycho hajui nani anajua?

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tycho
#6 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:09:47 PM
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washiku wrote:
Sasa kama @Tycho hajui nani anajua?


A good hint. The people regard Solomon as wise and worship him. But this only breeds discontentment among the people hence dividing the kingdom.

A consequence of wisdom is freedom; and freedom, responsibility. The children of Israel relegated all responsibility to Solomon and yet he could only fulfill a few hundred women.

Wisdom is a ladder, and Solomon had yet to climb to the last rung.

The anger of God came from the groans of men and women, who had not aspired to wisdom and were yet suffering.

But how could Solomon make the people wise, if he himself wasn't God? And how will the people be wise if they don't aspire to God?

Solomon was an emperor, yet his hold was feeble. And folly manifest.
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The Clown
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:09:25 PM
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tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?

Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?




I like to think of wisdom as an advisor given to us by God. Proberbs 1:23 "Come and listen to my (wisdom's) counsel, I'll share my heart with you and make you wise". Words in brackets are mine.

We can listen to what it tells us but ultimately we are the ones who make the decisions and take the actions. That way, we and only we are accountable to God for what we do.

God's anger towards Solomon arose from the fact that he turned away from worshiping Him and became involved with foreign gods.

Yani, even with wisdom, Solomon still had a choice to make and he went with the concubines and other gods.

Proverbs 1:30 "They rejected my advice and paid no attention when I corrected them. Therefore, they must eat the bitter fruit of living their own way, choking on their own schemes".
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kysse
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:08:52 PM
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tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?
Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?


@ Tycho, I will try.
The gifts of God are without repentance-.God does not withdraw a given gift when man turns against Him.
Romans 11.
Look around and see how many 'gifted sinners'we have'.-People calling themselves 'Men of God'.

Now if God doesn't withdraw a gift what happens if man chooses to disobey God like solomon?

We are told that the devil seeks people to devour.He requires a medium to operate, in this case man.Evil comes to corrupt the gift given to man by God for His glory.

There's no worse thing than a smart guy being used of the devil.
So no God doesn't play hide and seek.
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tycho
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:11:07 PM
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The Clown wrote:
tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?

Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?




I like to think of wisdom as an advisor given to us by God. Proberbs 1:23 "Come and listen to my (wisdom's) counsel, I'll share my heart with you and make you wise". Words in brackets are mine.

We can listen to what it tells us but ultimately we are the ones who make the decisions and take the actions. That way, we and only we are accountable to God for what we do.

God's anger towards Solomon arose from the fact that he turned away from worshiping Him and became involved with foreign gods.

Yani, even with wisdom, Solomon still had a choice to make and he went with the concubines and other gods.

Proverbs 1:30 "They rejected my advice and paid no attention when I corrected them. Therefore, they must eat the bitter fruit of living their own way, choking on their own schemes".


'Wisdom' is the ability to choose what is right. To say that he was wise but couldn't choose rightly then implies he had no wisdom from the beginning.
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tycho
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:16:26 PM
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kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
If Solomon was so wise, why did he worship many gods and tear the Kingdom apart?
Why was God so angry with him? Is God angry with Wisdom? Is God hiding something?


@ Tycho, I will try.
The gifts of God are without repentance-.God does not withdraw a given gift when man turns against Him.
Romans 11.
Look around and see how many 'gifted sinners'we have'.-People calling themselves 'Men of God'.

Now if God doesn't withdraw a gift what happens if man chooses to disobey God like solomon?

We are told that the devil seeks people to devour.He requires a medium to operate, in this case man.Evil comes to corrupt the gift given to man by God for His glory.

There's no worse thing than a smart guy being used of the devil.
So no God doesn't play hide and seek.



Let's agree that God doesn't withdraw his gifts to Man, and despite Solomon's waywardness he could still choose the right thing. But didn't choose. Should he still qualify as 'wise'?
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