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ChessMaster
#41 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:34:56 PM
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Annti_Christy wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:


If we are yet to understand our own minds and hearts,how can we attempt to understand His


what dont you understand about your mind?


Its nature.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
symbols
#42 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:03:38 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:


The id. The essence of Man in conflict, as kingdoms shake and tremble.



The way I see it,the id is not in conflict.It knows what it exactly wants.At the very least the physical aspect of our existence brings about the basic desires of the id.

Problem is,how do you explore the needs of the ego and superego beyond indoctrination and you can't objectively analyze it because no one is born outside the 'system'.That creates a cycle of reinforcing our perceptions of the ego and superego.
tycho
#43 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:35:59 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:


The id. The essence of Man in conflict, as kingdoms shake and tremble.



The way I see it,the id is not in conflict.It knows what it exactly wants.At the very least the physical aspect of our existence brings about the basic desires of the id.

Problem is,how do you explore the needs of the ego and superego beyond indoctrination and you can't objectively analyze it because no one is born outside the 'system'.That creates a cycle of reinforcing our perceptions of the ego and superego.


True. The id is not in conflict. But it is the locus of conflict within and without the individual.

When I first wrote the above words I had a mind and metaphor that's different from the one I have now, and by the end of this post I'll be having another.

That's we have a set comprising of elements M, M1, M2, M3, . . . to infinity. The id then becomes the difference between M1, and M. And entails a demand for 'symbolic adaptation'.

That is, the Superego is 'expanding', and the ego, along with its symbols has to adjust. The compulsion to adjust is the id.

And it's Damocles sword because one dies if adjustment isn't made.

Being 'born again' is to come out of the system.
symbols
#44 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:07:54 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:


The id. The essence of Man in conflict, as kingdoms shake and tremble.



The way I see it,the id is not in conflict.It knows what it exactly wants.At the very least the physical aspect of our existence brings about the basic desires of the id.

Problem is,how do you explore the needs of the ego and superego beyond indoctrination and you can't objectively analyze it because no one is born outside the 'system'.That creates a cycle of reinforcing our perceptions of the ego and superego.


True. The id is not in conflict. But it is the locus of conflict within and without the individual.

When I first wrote the above words I had a mind and metaphor that's different from the one I have now, and by the end of this post I'll be having another.

That's we have a set comprising of elements M, M1, M2, M3, . . . to infinity. The id then becomes the difference between M1, and M. And entails a demand for 'symbolic adaptation'.

That is, the Superego is 'expanding', and the ego, along with its symbols has to adjust. The compulsion to adjust is the id.

And it's Damocles sword because one dies if adjustment isn't made.

Being 'born again' is to come out of the system.


Interesting.
symbols
#45 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:00:10 AM
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tycho
#46 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:51:23 AM
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symbols wrote:


Century of self destruction.
symbols
#47 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:57:51 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:


Century of self destruction.


Indeed.
symbols
#48 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 12:56:26 AM
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tycho
#49 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:02:28 AM
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symbols wrote:
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Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?
symbols
#50 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:55:16 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
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Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly
tycho
#51 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:04:55 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol

Not 'back'. Wrong thinking. Hahahaha
symbols
#52 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:07:04 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?
tycho
#53 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:17:51 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.
symbols
#54 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:21:03 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?
tycho
#55 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:31:45 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
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Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.
symbols
#56 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:38:20 AM
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Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.


Sleep within sleep?I guess it depends on what sleep is to you.I don't understand the last paragraph.
tycho
#57 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:47:23 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.


Sleep within sleep?I guess it depends on what sleep is to you.I don't understand the last paragraph.


And what would you say sleep is? The home of dreams? The worm in my belly is dreaming. And I am dreaming. Sleep within sleep.

Last paragraph? Knowledge is erotic. The mind, the bed.
symbols
#58 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:52:26 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.


Sleep within sleep?I guess it depends on what sleep is to you.I don't understand the last paragraph.


And what would you say sleep is? The home of dreams? The worm in my belly is dreaming. And I am dreaming. Sleep within sleep.

Last paragraph? Knowledge is erotic. The mind, the bed.


You want to wake me up so your definition of sleep is what dictates your actions and is what is important.
tycho
#59 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:59:24 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.


Sleep within sleep?I guess it depends on what sleep is to you.I don't understand the last paragraph.


And what would you say sleep is? The home of dreams? The worm in my belly is dreaming. And I am dreaming. Sleep within sleep.

Last paragraph? Knowledge is erotic. The mind, the bed.


You want to wake me up so your definition of sleep is what dictates your actions and is what is important.


Yes. Can it ever be otherwise? Indeed to perceive is to suffer.
symbols
#60 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:06:21 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
...


Is this the final product of 'hacking into your mind'?


PossiblyLaughing out loudly


Hahahaha! Do we have a new river to cross then? You sent me on an investigative journey. But I'm back now. Lol


What river?


The one never twiced crossed. When you hacked and unhacked those were two rivers you crossed alone.

So I decided to wake you up.


Wake me up?


Why? Yes! When you first spoke, I was asleep, I woke a bit and read. Wanted to speak, but I was deep in a dream. So I went back to sleep.

But when I woke up it was gone. Or, am I in a sleep within sleep?

To speak to an other is to rouse for a joined sleeping. And dreaming.


Sleep within sleep?I guess it depends on what sleep is to you.I don't understand the last paragraph.


And what would you say sleep is? The home of dreams? The worm in my belly is dreaming. And I am dreaming. Sleep within sleep.

Last paragraph? Knowledge is erotic. The mind, the bed.


You want to wake me up so your definition of sleep is what dictates your actions and is what is important.


Yes. Can it ever be otherwise? Indeed to perceive is to suffer.


Then is ignorance bliss?
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