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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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urstill1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. By Eleanor Roosevelt
@Tokyo and @Washiku what was the purpose of highlighting this story, to discuss the boy? To discuss his family? To discuss the event?
The least you could have done is give a solution, instead of criticising me. Let us hear your solution to this problem.
@Tokyo and @Washiku I must tell you that I have the right to comment in this thread too. And I have the right to say what I feel I want to say.
If you don't want to read my post, please skip it. The story should be a lesson not discussing the boy That's true. But some people just know how to oppose. What is wrong is I say people with a lot of apetite should marry and even marry more than one? I said before that a father can even finance his son to get married... What is wrong with that? After all this 22 year old had already fathered a child with another girl, how many children were going to be fathered before he settled with one of them?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:urstill1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. By Eleanor Roosevelt
@Tokyo and @Washiku what was the purpose of highlighting this story, to discuss the boy? To discuss his family? To discuss the event?
The least you could have done is give a solution, instead of criticising me. Let us hear your solution to this problem.
@Tokyo and @Washiku I must tell you that I have the right to comment in this thread too. And I have the right to say what I feel I want to say.
If you don't want to read my post, please skip it. The story should be a lesson not discussing the boy That's true. But some people just know how to oppose. What is wrong is I say people with a lot of apetite should marry and even marry more than one? I said before that a father can even finance his son to get married... What is wrong with that? After all this 22 year old had already fathered a child with another girl, how many children were going to be fathered before he settled with one of them? Do you mean one should have as many as will exhaust his appetite? Then you're saying the same thing as the boy. And he's dead. Man must be about control of appetite. An Aristotelian kind of mean that's appropriate for each moment whether or not one has as many wives and concubines as Solomon. Or Akuku danger.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:urstill1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. By Eleanor Roosevelt
@Tokyo and @Washiku what was the purpose of highlighting this story, to discuss the boy? To discuss his family? To discuss the event?
The least you could have done is give a solution, instead of criticising me. Let us hear your solution to this problem.
@Tokyo and @Washiku I must tell you that I have the right to comment in this thread too. And I have the right to say what I feel I want to say.
If you don't want to read my post, please skip it. The story should be a lesson not discussing the boy That's true. But some people just know how to oppose. What is wrong is I say people with a lot of apetite should marry and even marry more than one? I said before that a father can even finance his son to get married... What is wrong with that? After all this 22 year old had already fathered a child with another girl, how many children were going to be fathered before he settled with one of them? Do you mean one should have as many as will exhaust his appetite? Then you're saying the same thing as the boy. And he's dead. Man must be about control of appetite. An Aristotelian kind of mean that's appropriate for each moment whether or not one has as many wives and concubines as Solomon. Or Akuku danger No, I meant legally. Marry them. That's why I said I'm proud of what Islam teaches me. I can have upto four, legally and there is reponsibility on my side. It is not just keeping women as mistresses. And there are conditions I must meet. You are talking of controlling apetite. How do you do that? I already listed many ways of trying to avoid such things happening. I think you didn't read my post. One of them is "fasting". Hadith says: We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatever. So the prophet said, " O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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Alikuwa shule ya kina MaWinder... huko wanaanzanga kudate cha lazima in form one.. na The girls school..so by the time amegraduate O levels, and such brains.. na nguvu ya matoke.. kijana ni pasi kama moto.
SAD!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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AlphDoti wrote:washiku wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. By Eleanor Roosevelt
@Tokyo and @Washiku what was the purpose of highlighting this story, to discuss the boy? To discuss his family? To discuss the event?
The least you could have done is give a solution, instead of criticising me. Let us hear your solution to this problem.
@Tokyo and @Washiku I must tell you that I have the right to comment in this thread too. And I have the right to say what I feel I want to say.
If you don't want to read my post, please skip it. We also have a right to respond when we feel like you are of the mark, don't we? Maybe I should put the question a bit more directly in few words. What did your response really mean? That if he was a Muslim things would have been different? Just make me understand. I said I'm proud of the code of conduct I'm expected as a Muslim to observe. I said the conduct forbids me of "bad" lifestyles, any kind of things that are potentially harmful or lead to corruption in society. And I said to young men, who can afford to get married, should marry. And I said this will be a means of restraining the eyes from casting an evil glance and keeping one pure and chaste. And I gave further recommendations. I'm not forcing anyone to follow them. So I offerred a solution. And I said failure to follow them would to things like having unlawful relationships, pornographic material etc. Where am I off the mark??? You see you are entitled to your opinion too. You can tell the youth to do what you think will help them avoid this kind of things happening. Like some of those photos you are fond of posting. Some are naked women, teaching them to lust after the naked bodies. Does your Bible teach that? @Wamapisha... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Having now visited one of the so-called holiest Islamic countries with the two holy shrines, one thing I can say is Muslims are some of biggest hypocrites in this world so please save your longwinded waffle. For a start, why do so many in the GCC marry first cousins? Why are there as many prostitutes in Doha as there are Qatari women? [inquote=AlphDoti] tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:urstill1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. By Eleanor Roosevelt
@Tokyo and @Washiku what was the purpose of highlighting this story, to discuss the boy? To discuss his family? To discuss the event?
The least you could have done is give a solution, instead of criticising me. Let us hear your solution to this problem.
@Tokyo and @Washiku I must tell you that I have the right to comment in this thread too. And I have the right to say what I feel I want to say.
If you don't want to read my post, please skip it. The story should be a lesson not discussing the boy That's true. But some people just know how to oppose. What is wrong is I say people with a lot of apetite should marry and even marry more than one? I said before that a father can even finance his son to get married... What is wrong with that? After all this 22 year old had already fathered a child with another girl, how many children were going to be fathered before he settled with one of them? Do you mean one should have as many as will exhaust his appetite? Then you're saying the same thing as the boy. And he's dead. Man must be about control of appetite. An Aristotelian kind of mean that's appropriate for each moment whether or not one has as many wives and concubines as Solomon. Or Akuku danger No, I meant legally. Marry them. That's why I said I'm proud of what Islam teaches me. I can have upto four, legally and there is reponsibility on my side. It is not just keeping women as mistresses. And there are conditions I must meet. You are talking of controlling apetite. How do you do that? I already listed many ways of trying to avoid such things happening. I think you didn't read my post. One of them is "fasting". Hadith says: We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatever. So the prophet said, " O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power."[/quote] Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Pole for the family and friends of a promising student. He was just a typical 21yr old with oats to sow. Most of us at age (some even double that age), struggled with beauty of our women. Permanent attension! we call it. Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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King G wrote:@mawinder would have advised the lad to take care... Konoo how do people live in such places except 'them'. Afhadali yoles! Ancestral land......that is.....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Mainat wrote:Pole for the family and friends of a promising student. He was just a typical 21yr old with oats to sow. Most of us at age (some even double that age), struggled with beauty of our women. Permanent attension! we call it. The 'good thing' is that he was living a life many boys his age only dream about. Lucky boy. At least he died a happy man, having achieved much more mpango-wise than what many men may ever do.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/25/2009 Posts: 973
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jaggernaut wrote:Mainat wrote:Pole for the family and friends of a promising student. He was just a typical 21yr old with oats to sow. Most of us at age (some even double that age), struggled with beauty of our women. Permanent attension! we call it. The 'good thing' is that he wias living a life many boys his age only dream about. Lucky boy. At least he died a happy man, having achieved much more mpango-wise than what many men may ever do. Died happy being stabbed?
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