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KenolKobil & Total-Kenya Valuation and Recommendation
mwekez@ji
#41 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:13:55 PM
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KK breaking down 8¿ Drool Drool Drool
hisah
#42 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:58:08 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
KK breaking down 8¿ Drool Drool Drool

Very likely to see 7.95 break down... Also watching HAFR, MSC and KQ.Paka too is acting up.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#43 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:14:37 AM
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I thot people believed in KK?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mwekez@ji
#44 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:55:03 AM
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@murchr, its buy time for KK. Breakdown welcomed
Aguytrying
#45 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:33:05 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@murchr, its buy time for KK. Breakdown welcomed


this is true. a return to the pyschological 10.00 will be a bus stop on the way back up.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mkeiyd
#46 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:20:01 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@murchr, its buy time for KK. Breakdown welcomed


this is true. a return to the pyschological 10.00 will be a bus stop on the way back up.


In the old KK thread, 2014 was billed to be THE year.
With all the water under bridge, which is THE new KK year? 2015? That would sound like a lifetime.
mwekez@ji
#47 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:40:05 AM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@murchr, its buy time for KK. Breakdown welcomed


this is true. a return to the pyschological 10.00 will be a bus stop on the way back up.


In the old KK thread, 2014 was billed to be THE year.
With all the water under bridge, which is THE new KK year? 2015? That would sound like a lifetime.


2013 is the year of recovery. 2014 the company will be dazzling. Capital gains will be made in this year of recovery and similarly in 2014 when all will be taking attention on the company. Choose is yours on when to buy. We choose to buy now
mkeiyd
#48 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:29:47 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:


2013 is the year of recovery. 2014 the company will be dazzling. Capital gains will be made in this year of recovery and similarly in 2014 when all will be taking attention on the company. Choose is yours on when to buy. We choose to buy now


@mwekez@ji, Any significant capital gains this year will be Christmas bonus for me, i'm not counting on any.

Daylight will come after April 2014 [my hunch].

I too see blue. Which reminds me of the Tecno song by that title "Blue"
mkeiyd
#49 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 10:30:06 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Total Kenya

We have upgraded our estimates on Total Kenya and upgraded our recommendation from a SELL to a BUY and revised our fair value upwards to KES 37.68

(Source: Standard Investment Bank, 30.07.2013)


I don't think it will get to 37 as projected,overbought.
mwekez@ji
#50 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 9:00:02 AM
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mlennyma
#51 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 9:15:27 AM
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Raising 1.7b is a confidence tick for kk,if the big boys have faith,who am i to be left out by the discounted share price?
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mlennyma
#52 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:10:01 PM
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why is kenol trading very huge hidden volumes?
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mkeiyd
#53 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:21:26 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
why is kenol trading very huge hidden volumes?



Ground shift? With Essar exiting Kprl for another strategic investor, kk's commercial paper & out of court settlements.
Realtreaty
#54 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:26:55 PM
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smile Total Kenya is totalling and when I recall 24/8= 3, I wonder if total is 3 times better than KK as of todate. KK a sister, No, Brother to Total is trading at 8 while Total is at 24. Which will way do you think the siblings must go to be together again? Has KK taken a vacation leaving the total to move alone on the wide berth or is total being aided by wind that may change direction?
24=8*3!!!!!!!!!!
mkonomtupu
#55 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:43:47 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
smile Total Kenya is totalling and when I recall 24/8= 3, I wonder if total is 3 times better than KK as of todate. KK a sister, No, Brother to Total is trading at 8 while Total is at 24. Which will way do you think the siblings must go to be together again? Has KK taken a vacation leaving the total to move alone on the wide berth or is total being aided by wind that may change direction?
24=8*3!!!!!!!!!!


Total was the first to heal its wounds by taking a loan from the mother company to clear the expensive bank debts. Total's normal price is 30-33/=

KK on the hand realized its mistake a bit late and it may take time to get its groove back
mkeiyd
#56 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:36:55 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
smile Total Kenya is totalling and when I recall 24/8= 3, I wonder if total is 3 times better than KK as of todate. KK a sister, No, Brother to Total is trading at 8 while Total is at 24. Which will way do you think the siblings must go to be together again? Has KK taken a vacation leaving the total to move alone on the wide berth or is total being aided by wind that may change direction?
24=8*3!!!!!!!!!!


Total was the first to heal its wounds by taking a loan from the mother company to clear the expensive bank debts. Total's normal price is 30-33/=

KK on the hand realized its mistake a bit late and it may take time to get its groove back


Even so,looking Total cartoon,it suggests overbought position on thin volumes. On Kk,people are digging their heels n the cartoon ain't bad.
mlennyma
#57 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:11:42 AM
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Have you noticed that the big men are buying at strictly 8 and small men above 8?
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muganda
#58 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:21:31 AM
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KenolKobil paper raises Sh1.7 billion for operations
http://www.businessdailyafrica....8/-/ldh5joz/-/index.html

Financing cost HY 2013 was 801m for Kenol, 154m for Total.

A little wary with the improving USD/KES exchange rate - today at 84.90; it always seems to catch KenolKobil, KQ, Total, a little flat footed.
guru267
#59 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:14:38 AM
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muganda wrote:
A little wary with the improving USD/KES exchange rate - today at 84.90; it always seems to catch KenolKobil, KQ, Total, a little flat footed.


I actually thought a strengthening USD/KES is good for oil importers??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#60 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:36:38 AM
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Has kk hedged and if yes at what rate?
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