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Land Speculation Remastered
The Associate
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:55:06 AM
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Being an Economics and Statistics student, I have always thought whether there is a passive investment where one can make money apart from stocks and owning rentals. Land speculation seems to be the answer.
My little research revealed that most wazuans made their first million after selling land 'How you made your first million'. The only drawbacks are the huge capital outlay and the illiquidity of the investment. With the ability to decipher statistics from the Kenya bureau of statistics, it is time some of this data was put into good use by a mwananchi. The data could be instrumental in helping one to locate areas with the highest population growth. Land is a fixed resource and the population grows exponentially. This means that the pressure on land will continue until a time when there will be no or negative population growth which is very unlikely to happen in the next twenty years. In some places, prices have been seen to double annually. I believe that when armed with vast knowledge in land and urban economics, coupled by a team of competent staff e.g good scout, perfect online researchers and a lawyer who understands conveyancing, one can make a fortune from this. Land is better than stocks because in Kenya, if you speculate wisely, it has better return on investment and next to no risk.
Whats more, you can lease the land at a fee as you wait for it to appreciate. With such returns around http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1rlkte/-/index.html and http://www.a4architect.c...d-nairobi-2000-to-2013/ I believe that one ought to master the art of land speculation for better returns than stocks over the medium term.
Am
#2 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 12:06:43 PM
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The Associate wrote:
Being an Economics and Statistics student, I have always thought whether there is a passive investment where one can make money apart from stocks and owning rentals. Land speculation seems to be the answer.
My little research revealed that most wazuans made their first million after selling land 'How you made your first million'. The only drawbacks are the huge capital outlay and the illiquidity of the investment. With the ability to decipher statistics from the Kenya bureau of statistics, it is time some of this data was put into good use by a mwananchi. The data could be instrumental in helping one to locate areas with the highest population growth. Land is a fixed resource and the population grows exponentially. This means that the pressure on land will continue until a time when there will be no or negative population growth which is very unlikely to happen in the next twenty years. In some places, prices have been seen to double annually. I believe that when armed with vast knowledge in land and urban economics, coupled by a team of competent staff e.g good scout, perfect online researchers and a lawyer who understands conveyancing, one can make a fortune from this. Land is better than stocks because in Kenya, if you speculate wisely, it has better return on investment and next to no risk.
Whats more, you can lease the land at a fee as you wait for it to appreciate. With such returns around http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1rlkte/-/index.html and http://www.a4architect.c...d-nairobi-2000-to-2013/ I believe that one ought to master the art of land speculation for better returns than stocks over the medium term.


You have a point. But you need no research and data from KBS on where Population has a likelihood of growing. Do not bother them. Do not waste your time. All you need to know is where bypasses and Missing links are being built and Invest your money there. Population will follow you as soon as area opens up. Not the other way round.

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ahoo
#3 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50:36 PM
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The Associate wrote:
Being an Economics and Statistics student, I have always thought whether there is a passive investment where one can make money apart from stocks and owning rentals. Land speculation seems to be the answer.
My little research revealed that most wazuans made their first million after selling land 'How you made your first million'. The only drawbacks are the huge capital outlay and the illiquidity of the investment. With the ability to decipher statistics from the Kenya bureau of statistics, it is time some of this data was put into good use by a mwananchi. The data could be instrumental in helping one to locate areas with the highest population growth. Land is a fixed resource and the population grows exponentially. This means that the pressure on land will continue until a time when there will be no or negative population growth which is very unlikely to happen in the next twenty years. In some places, prices have been seen to double annually. I believe that when armed with vast knowledge in land and urban economics, coupled by a team of competent staff e.g good scout, perfect online researchers and a lawyer who understands conveyancing, one can make a fortune from this. Land is better than stocks because in Kenya, if you speculate wisely, it has better return on investment and next to no risk.
Whats more, you can lease the land at a fee as you wait for it to appreciate. With such returns around http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1rlkte/-/index.html and http://www.a4architect.c...d-nairobi-2000-to-2013/ I believe that one ought to master the art of land speculation for better returns than stocks over the medium term.


I would be cautious on that note.In Kenya the risk is very high depending on where you are buying or from who.The rule of thumb for me is that in 80% of the transactions assume you are being conned and do your 'Due diligence' as we have always said
Some clown sold me land in one of the transactions and when i went to fence it voila the surveyor informed me the title i had gotten was for another piece elsewhere.Guy has had to compensate me plus pay interest over 2 years!


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mkonomtupu
#4 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 1:24:56 PM
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The Associate wrote:
Being an Economics and Statistics student, I have always thought whether there is a passive investment where one can make money apart from stocks and owning rentals. Land speculation seems to be the answer.
My little research revealed that most wazuans made their first million after selling land 'How you made your first million'. The only drawbacks are the huge capital outlay and the illiquidity of the investment. With the ability to decipher statistics from the Kenya bureau of statistics, it is time some of this data was put into good use by a mwananchi. The data could be instrumental in helping one to locate areas with the highest population growth. Land is a fixed resource and the population grows exponentially. This means that the pressure on land will continue until a time when there will be no or negative population growth which is very unlikely to happen in the next twenty years. In some places, prices have been seen to double annually. I believe that when armed with vast knowledge in land and urban economics, coupled by a team of competent staff e.g good scout, perfect online researchers and a lawyer who understands conveyancing, one can make a fortune from this. Land is better than stocks because in Kenya, if you speculate wisely, it has better return on investment and next to no risk.
Whats more, you can lease the land at a fee as you wait for it to appreciate. With such returns around http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1rlkte/-/index.html and http://www.a4architect.c...d-nairobi-2000-to-2013/ I believe that one ought to master the art of land speculation for better returns than stocks over the medium term.



NSE market capitalisation is now more than 50% of the Kenyan GDP that is just 50 odd companies so how is land better than stocks. Shame on you Shame on you
Land as asset in Kenya is overvalued due to imperfect information like upcoming roads projects but there is very little value addition. In Kenya the period from 1990 to 2000 the prices of land were largely stagnant. You may end buying overpriced assets like the Japanese in the 1986-1991 asset bubble. Price is what you pay value is what you get
a4architect.com
#5 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 2:14:34 PM
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@mkonotupu..well put. Land in kenya is over valued. The reason is that there are vast prime lands left idle as owners speculate. Only the land commission can stop this by implementing idle land taxation.
High land prices have in turn affected housing and rent costs.
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Kalameni
#6 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 6:49:01 PM
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the big question is when this bubble is going to burst ? is it any time soon or will population pressure,massive rural to urban migration sustain it for the next 17yrs till 2030 when our beloved nation becomes a middle income country.




murchr
#7 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 7:09:35 PM
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Kalameni wrote:
the big question is when this bubble is going to burst ? is it any time soon or will population pressure,massive rural to urban migration sustain it for the next 17yrs till 2030 when our beloved nation becomes a middle income country.






When the real estate bubble bursted in the US it was because people took up loans that they weren't able to pay. How will this bubble burst in Kenya? Are people taking up loans or are they paying cash?
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kyt
#8 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 7:48:20 PM
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there is no bubble burst any time soon in kenya. that is for sure.
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Am
#9 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 8:54:16 PM
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[quote=Kalameni]the big question is when this bubble is going to burst ? is it any time soon or will population pressure,massive rural to urban migration sustain it for the next 17yrs till 2030 when our beloved nation becomes a middle income country.



Which Bubble will happen when you can not get an acre of land for 5 Million cash 50 Kilometre radius of Nairobi.




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Kalameni
#10 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 9:25:21 PM
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@am are we not seeing early signs e.g too much of Kenya economy directed at real estate talk of banks nd other lenders,iinvestment firms ,insurance co etc etc.


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