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Relax, The Stock Market Correction Is Your Friend http://www.realclearmark..._your_friend_100427.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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obiero wrote:Kenyan banks likely to post lower end year results this year.. you need to stop drinking at that place you frequent
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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mwekez@ji wrote:obiero wrote:Kenyan banks likely to post lower end year results this year.. you need to stop drinking at that place you frequent He needs to stop drinking! Thieves
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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KenyaRe hits 13.60 again
BIDS 108,300 Quantity Price Splits Time 101,000 14.00 2 09:44:26 6,300 13.60 1 09:44:26 1,000 13.50 1 09:44:26 - - - - - - - - ASKS 13,500 Quantity Price Splits Time 2,000 15.05 2 09:44:26 3,700 15.20 1 09:44:26 1,800 15.50 2 09:44:26 5,200 15.60 2 09:44:26 300 15.80 1 09:44:26 TRADES Quantity Price Time 3,700 13.60 09:44:00 100 14.30 09:43:20 3,500 14.30 09:41:17 33,100 15.05 09:34:18 34,500 15.05 09:34:18
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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mwekez@ji wrote:KenyaRe hits 13.60 again
BIDS 108,300 Quantity Price Splits Time 101,000 14.00 2 09:44:26 6,300 13.60 1 09:44:26 1,000 13.50 1 09:44:26 - - - - - - - - ASKS 13,500 Quantity Price Splits Time 2,000 15.05 2 09:44:26 3,700 15.20 1 09:44:26 1,800 15.50 2 09:44:26 5,200 15.60 2 09:44:26 300 15.80 1 09:44:26 TRADES Quantity Price Time 3,700 13.60 09:44:00 100 14.30 09:43:20 3,500 14.30 09:41:17 33,100 15.05 09:34:18 34,500 15.05 09:34:18 Some of these discounts will drive me nuts!$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Some of us just talk without any backing research. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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mwekez@ji wrote:KenyaRe hits 13.60 again
BIDS 108,300 Quantity Price Splits Time 101,000 14.00 2 09:44:26 6,300 13.60 1 09:44:26 1,000 13.50 1 09:44:26 - - - - - - - - ASKS 13,500 Quantity Price Splits Time 2,000 15.05 2 09:44:26 3,700 15.20 1 09:44:26 1,800 15.50 2 09:44:26 5,200 15.60 2 09:44:26 300 15.80 1 09:44:26 TRADES Quantity Price Time 3,700 13.60 09:44:00 100 14.30 09:43:20 3,500 14.30 09:41:17 33,100 15.05 09:34:18 34,500 15.05 09:34:18 Centum started with over 1m shares traded hitting 9.52% and coop few shares but it hit 16.2
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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true madness may be witnessed tomorrow. the combination of ICC, JKIA and now Westgate may just be too much for the NSE to maintain current prices. expect some movement HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Watching the germany election closely... This is key event for euroland. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Sad eventuality in the country this weekend indeed. We as investors have every reason to be concerned about possible outcomes. Nonetheless, soon as the situation is contained we'll get over it as we've done before. If anything, the best consensus would be to hold the lines but err..free mkt economics will prevail ultimately. Let's see..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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hisah wrote:Watching the germany election closely... This is key event for euroland. Status quo maintained in euroland. But at NSE it'll be a bit chilly, but a bit better than if euroland got spooked by this election.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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Quote:-
Risk vs. Reward
The essence of investing isn't about earnings, it's not about valuation... it's about risk. You are buying stocks to accept more risk than you would incur if you invested in bonds. You are accepting the risk of stocks versus the safety of treasuries. You take the risk by buying a security that doesn't guarantee a return.
Given that you have accepted the risk of stocks vs. bonds or stocks vs. treasuries, you expect something for that. That extra risk can result in extra return. That is the reward. The more you risk, as the theory goes, th e more possible return. Although an excessive amount of risk can have disastrous results.
Measuring Risk
One way to measure the intangible idea of risk is to look at beta. Beta is defined as a measure of the volatility, or systematic risk, of a security or a portfolio in comparison to the market as a whole. The basic idea is that a beta of 1.00 means you have the same risk as the rest of the market. A measure of 0.50 means you have 50% of the risk of the market, so less risk. 2.00 would indicate your security or portfolio carries more risk, a lot more risk.
Does this mean that a beta of 1.00 will move with the market in lock step? No. Does it mean that a stock with a beta of 0.80 will not move as much as the market? Not necessarily. Beta is a tool that looks at volatility in the past, but investors would be wise to take this measure at face value. After all, beta is based on what has happened not what is expected to happen.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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^ @Jamani, et al, pls give us a link to a database showing "beta" of NSE counters
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2010 Posts: 325 Location: NAIROBI
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I wish to render my research services to any Kenyan brokerage firm for free; My work will be to analyze stocks and compile an advisory commentary. all I will need is stocks open,high,low and close. Discipline & sticking to your strategy even when you loosing defines great traders.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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mwekez@ji wrote:^ @Jamani, et al, pls give us a link to a database showing "beta" of NSE counters Try https://live.mystocks.co.ke/
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Thanks @Jamani. Trying to understand this by looking at banking counters but have got lost when i've checked the Oil Marketing Companies Banking CountersBBK; 0.44 CFC; 1.07 DTB; 0.29 Equity; 0.55 HFCK; 0.34 KCB; 0.98 NBK; 0.11 NIC; 0.65 Stanchart; 0.16 Coop; 0.27 I&M; 0.52 Oil Marketing CompaniesTotal Kenya; 0.09 Kenol Kobil; -0.09 (notice the negative )
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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mwekez@ji wrote:Thanks @Jamani. Trying to understand this by looking at banking counters but have got lost when i've checked the Oil Marketing Companies Banking CountersBBK; 0.44 CFC; 1.07 DTB; 0.29 Equity; 0.55 HFCK; 0.34 KCB; 0.98 NBK; 0.11 NIC; 0.65 Stanchart; 0.16 Coop; 0.27 I&M; 0.52 Oil Marketing CompaniesTotal Kenya; 0.09 Kenol Kobil; -0.09 (notice the negative ) Is this to say there is absolutely no risk on KK? Infact for you to reach a "no risk" [beta=0] status on KK, you need a 0.09 reward first? Disclaimer; I know very little of what i'm saying.
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