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#31 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:31:04 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
simonkabz wrote:




Have to admit, she is beautiful, an almost flawless face. reminds me of the monalisa.


This is your taste?Sad

Yuck!!! Not even with a 5-ft pole....d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Muriel
#32 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:48:03 AM
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smano wrote:
Any Muslims in the house to shed light on this? They seem like quotes from Jihadist books probably contradicting what's written in the Quran


Smano, they are not contradicting. They read the same koran. What they are saying is there in the koran.

They suffer the same affliction of interpretation as we, christians, have of the bible even as they pride in the single version of koran that is appropriately memorized and preserved unlike the bible.

Let me show you:

Muriel
#33 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:53:38 AM
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Quote:
Sura 52:
17. As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,-
18. Enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire.
19. (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds."
20. They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.
21. And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, -to them shall We join their families: Nor shall we deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.
22. And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire.
23. They shall there exchange, one with another, a (loving) cup free of frivolity, free of all taint of ill.
24. Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them. Youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.


Quote:
Sura 55:
55. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
56. In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched,-


I will hazard that the men think they will get the promised companions with big lustrous eyes whom no man or jinn has touched, and anything they want (and what is in men's minds, what could they want more than sex?) while the women like the widow will get the handsome youth for eternal orgies.

But the above is conditional on 'good deeds'.

Quote:
Sura 18:
30. As to those who believe and work righteousness, verily We shall not suffer to perish the reward of any who do a (single) righteous deed.
31. For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, They will recline on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on!



Quote:
Sura 2:
277. Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.


What good deeds?

Quote:
Sura 9:
20. Those who believe, and emigrate and strive with might and main, in Allah's cause, with their goods and their persons have the highest rank in the sight of Allah: they are the people who will achieve (salvation).


Quote:
Sura 4:
95. Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.-



There is no way Alphdoti and his ilk will convince his suicidal kin, or us for that matter, that 'striving with might and main, goods and their persons, avoiding sitting at home hence receiving no hurt' excludes suicide, life threatening, maiming & injuring missions like the ones his kin are carrying out. If he could, there would be not there. But there are there.

Why?

Because killing, maiming, physical injury are all tacitly encapsulated there. They are not expressly excluded. They are not unequivocally ruled out. Those verse have room for 'suitable' interpretation, 'suitable' adjustment, 'suitable' tweaking.

And

The promised rewards are 'too great, too sweet, too orgasmic, to be ignored'.

Hence the mindset. Hence the killing in the name of Islam. Hence Aboud Rogo, Abu Umama (that Masukuma has mentioned) et al. They cannot be disproven from the Koran. They cannot be told, shown they have misinterpreted the Koran.

And those who sit at home and do nothing will not get a special reward - no wonder Alphdoti is all over agitating, researching, disputing, arguing, commenting for Allah. He is doing well. He is just a step or two away from getting physical. From the ultimate eternal virgin & handsome prizes.
McReggae
#34 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:02:41 AM
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@Muriel......Applause Applause Applause Applause
You've chambuad it just like @Alphdotti hound us about the bible here everyday......fact is these people kill in the name of Islam and they scriptures to support their actions from the Koran!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Muriel
#35 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:04:36 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Me I'd asked a genuine question earlier? What are female jihadists promised? 72 virgin men? And all these virgins, once 'popped' what happens? Re-virgination?

There is nothing like this in Islam my friend @Mukiri.

I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the huicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

You see, one of the biggest propaganda
...in this world that has been invented is of 72 virgins.
This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth.

In fact, the media wants people
...to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths
are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.

The way Islam has condemned suicide
making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins
remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam.
Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.


So, what exactly is the motivation for anybody to carry out a suicide attack?

My question exactly!?

Any chance Mr Muslim you could quote a few suras as used by Jihadists? Infact, please explain, using the Koran, what Jihad is described as? Where did the word Jihad come from?

Someone again here asked, why is it that old men and women don't blow themselves up? Why is it the recruits, people young in faith, that end up so right wing?

And final question, why are muslims so 'violent'?

@mukiri you show me the suras the used by your alleged jihadists. You're the one alleging. I've told you these are propaganda.

No offense but are you wearing goggles now?

164 Jihad Verses Rink

Anyways, this is no smear. Religion preaches LOVE. Or so I hope. My Bible tells me to love enemies, and pray for those who persecute you. I'm sure there is something more or less in the Koran, no?

I understand its not easy for you, right now, dealing with Christians, theres always that subtle feeling even though suppressed. My only request would be for you to desist, for all the days of your life, from talking ill of the Bible and Christians. For all you know, a single ill word may serve as motivation to a potential terrorist.


Mukiri,

If this his how you can respond to that I now understand why you and I cannot hold a discussion. But no hard feelings.
McReggae
#36 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:12:37 AM
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Waiting for @Alphdoti's rebuttal!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
washiku
#37 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:24:57 AM
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And who shall explain the fact that these terrorists also attacks muslims?
bkismat
#38 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:32:31 AM
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washiku wrote:
And who shall explain the fact that these terrorists also attacks muslims?

In Somalia,Iraq,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Algeria. These are Muslim majority countries. So what exactly do they want? SMH.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
McReggae
#39 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:32:54 AM
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washiku wrote:
And who shall explain the fact that these terrorists also attacks muslims?


Only as collateral damage or go against them!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Njung'e
#40 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:37:38 AM
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Sometimes i want to believe that Islam does not motivate this Al shabaab idiots but i always stop when i "hear" the deafening noise from the Muslims in and around,which follows such senseless attacks.I also want to think that there are many who celebrate behind closed doors.NO?
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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