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McReggae
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:13:15 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I think she is overhyped, she has no documented history of Military training or real sniper action.......just a sympathiser to Al Queda given her late husbands involvement with the outlawed group!!!!


Possible, but I wouldnt underestimate her till I hear the full story.

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There is not so much you will gather on her apart from her late husband's story and the fact that she once hurled a grenade.......my take is that she may have been involved for intelligence gathering, planning and coordination but not as a commander inside Westgate.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
AlphDoti
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:13:25 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Me I'd asked a genuine question earlier? What are female jihadists promised? 72 virgin men? And all these virgins, once 'popped' what happens? Re-virgination?

There is nothing like this in Islam my friend @Mukiri.

I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the huicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

You see, one of the biggest propaganda
...in this world that has been invented is of 72 virgins.
This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth.

In fact, the media wants people
...to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths
are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.

The way Islam has condemned suicide
making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins
remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam.
Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.
simonkabz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:20:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Me I'd asked a genuine question earlier? What are female jihadists promised? 72 virgin men? And all these virgins, once 'popped' what happens? Re-virgination?

There is nothing like this in Islam my friend @Mukiri.

I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the huicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

You see, one of the biggest propaganda
...in this world that has been invented is of 72 virgins.
This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth.

In fact, the media wants people
...to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths
are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.

The way Islam has condemned suicide
making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins
remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam.
Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.


So, what exactly is the motivation for anybody to carry out a suicide attack?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
smano
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:21:36 PM
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Here's some attempt at explanation on this "promised land" for Jihadists...

http://wikiislam.net/wik..._and_Scholars:Jihadists
BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
smano
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:28:18 PM
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Any Muslims in the house to shed light on this? They seem like quotes from Jihadist books probably contradicting what's written in the Quran
BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
Mainat
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:37:19 PM
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Jihad is mentioned 41 times in their holy book and is one of their 6 pillars. A religion of peace? Does munge shed dung?
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Mukiri
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:45:46 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Me I'd asked a genuine question earlier? What are female jihadists promised? 72 virgin men? And all these virgins, once 'popped' what happens? Re-virgination?

There is nothing like this in Islam my friend @Mukiri.

I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the huicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

You see, one of the biggest propaganda
...in this world that has been invented is of 72 virgins.
This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth.

In fact, the media wants people
...to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths
are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.

The way Islam has condemned suicide
making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins
remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam.
Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.


So, what exactly is the motivation for anybody to carry out a suicide attack?

My question exactly!?

Any chance Mr Muslim you could quote a few suras as used by Jihadists? Infact, please explain, using the Koran, what Jihad is described as? Where did the word Jihad come from?

Someone again here asked, why is it that old men and women don't blow themselves up? Why is it the recruits, people young in faith, that end up so right wing?

And final question, why are muslims so 'violent'?

Proverbs 19:21
Shak
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:19:36 PM
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Shak
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:21:15 PM
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Location: Africa
Shak wrote:
I have this sneaky feeling that some opportunists with ulterior motives are using Islam to achieve diabolical objectives. I believe the Westgate terrorists were used as pawns in a game that we are yet to understand. Terrorists are now an export commodity for those willing to pay the price. No wonder unsuspecting teens are perfect for this as they don't ask questions and are easily brainwashed.The ultimate game players I think are the Capitalists

tassia
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:43:42 PM
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I guess this has been discussed here in the past.
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=20810
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