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VAT Bill 2013 - Solutions ONLY
butterflyke
#41 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:42:20 AM
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@GGK and @sparkly, I like those arguments
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guru267
#42 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:10:34 AM
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Majority of my income comes from the informal sector and I have personally NEVER paid a dime to KRA....

My employment income on the other hand is taxed like mad....

I believe the key to balancing the budget is in the recurrent expenditure...

1) Reduce wage bill
2) Reduce GOK size
3) Selloff non essential parastatals like Portland cement
4) Streamlining procurement
5) Kill the lavish allowances
6) Emphasise PPPs

If Uhuruto can gather enough cahunas to effect these we would have a surplus budget!
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kaka2za
#43 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:38:24 AM
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Good policy but poor delivery. The govt was negligent on creating awareness over the new law. Additional income will be just over 10b but the pitch is on VAT refunds.
I agree with GGK, reduce exemptions and do away with zero rating.
By the way there are refunds for exempted organizations eg AKDN
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mukiha
#44 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 3:44:09 PM
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The primary aim of the VAT bill was NOT to increase revenue, but rather, to simplify the collection process. Especially dealing with the monster called pending VAT refunds by drastically reducing the list of zero-rated items and taking them to the Exempt list.

Increase in revenue collection was just but a bonus.
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kakas
#45 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:00:07 AM
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people needs to understand why the gava do some things like the increase in VAT its long overdue that thing should have been done long time ago. imagine a guy in nbi owning 15 cabs each giving him at least 2000 per day translating to 60k per cab pm making the total to be 900k pm net because the guy is in the jua kali sector meaning that the only form of tax he pays is VAT on the vatable commodities.what gava ought to have was to increase VAT to 20% and this should apply all people across the board even those with diplomatic immunity except for the military because that will still trickle down to us. then it should reduce the rates for for PAYE for those in employment.
Swenani
#46 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:51:12 PM
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kakas wrote:
people needs to understand why the gava do some things like the increase in VAT its long overdue that thing should have been done long time ago. imagine a guy in nbi owning 15 cabs each giving him at least 2000 per day translating to 60k per cab pm making the total to be 900k pm net because the guy is in the jua kali sector meaning that the only form of tax he pays is VAT on the vatable commodities.what gava ought to have was to increase VAT to 20% and this should apply all people across the board even those with diplomatic immunity except for the military because that will still trickle down to us. then it should reduce the rates for for PAYE for those in employment.


I totally agree with you,In doing so the government will encourage savings as well as increase the tax base
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Swenani
#47 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:56:50 PM
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mukiha wrote:
The primary aim of the VAT bill was NOT to increase revenue, but rather, to simplify the collection process. Especially dealing with the monster called pending VAT refunds by drastically reducing the list of zero-rated items and taking them to the Exempt list.

Increase in revenue collection was just but a bonus.


I think the aim was to increase the revenue....If the number of refund claims are going to reduce(by moving the zero rated items to exempt)then you are going to increase the revenue
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