Muganda,

I thought you were better than this..... one of the few level headed members in club sk.

You have made interesting yet wrong assumptions about me and about the content of the presentation, exactly like I did about you.

Its my preference to maintain our dignity and composure, as elders, and avoid some unnecessary personalized & customized comments. Are you okay with that? Even if you are not, rest assured I will not follow you down there.

I have so far been courteous, even apologized where I felt I did wrong after making fun. Again I am sorry for that, I should have empathized.

But I do not feel sorry for what is in those pages and I will not apologize for them. You take it up with the author if you are still offended.

Moving the debate forward, the link you have provided is the only worthy issue befitting your status and my response.

I do not deny that this has always been a contentious issue. And with the limited use of media e.g. print in those days, it will continue being contentious. We will die and still leave it contentious.

So do we now get angry and sensationally & theatrically personalize the issue when an institution in far away Europe is touched? By a European no less? Come on man! Yesuwangu merely posted what was written and published.

So I will read your link again and again and again and again. Then accumulate it together with the nasty others that I already know about Rome and see how the composite is consistent.

I will reply, maybe not in this thread and maybe not today. Good day, Muganda.

Aaah @Robinhood excellent points. You will see I agree here:
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...s&m=69412#post69412
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=282572#post282572

My point is not to exonerate. I only objected when I sensed apparent glee, leading me to question the motive behind continued persistence.

Hooray!

I have found a mine. Depending on perspectives, it may be a gold mine or just a hole in the ground. I went digging in the internet and I dug and dug and dug and dug.....and I found.

It contains the link of the book I have been referring to and others I did not know of. I have tested it and it works, it will just take a while. Click it or c&p in your browser.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/ebooks-romanism

point of correction, ladies and gentlemen. peter was never a pope of the catholic church. he died way before the nineceans council was consituted~circa 330AD, The birth place of roman catholism.

Think its time to licence these pilots.No need to fly off radar every time...
Rink http://www.standardmedia...ts-nun-says&pageNo=2

@Muganda has a point. Maybe this is a case truth hurts.

You see, Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) was totally different person from what Christians potray him. Also the Christians themselves are not "Christ-like"

This is the kind of news that anti-christs relish in. Show me someone who claims not be a sinner and I'll show you a liar.

Let ye without sin cast the first stone.

But having said that, maybe the papacy should re-think the chastity vows. What purpose does it serve?

Waiting for @Tycho to elaborate.

You can imagine how each Wazuan would describe you @impunity, or even AlphDoti. No doubt many will come with such expressions as this. So in the end one has to admit that he's always wearing 'goggles'.

We are looking at someone's 'goggles' here.

Mine states that Christ is Man God, and being Man God is the only way that one can be 'Christ like'. And, it's not about a group, or a religion, but the individual himself.

So, @Alph, are you 'Christ like'.

@tycho unfortunately, we're not talking about the same Christ.

I told you before that I think you're smart boy. But what you talk mostly is gibberish. If only you could make people understand you.

You see when you say "mine states that...". What is this thing of yours, which only you understands. I'm not referring to that "thing" you only know. You keep saying "Man God". I don't ascribe to that thinking of saying God is man and Man is God.

You see if a person is genuine
and learns something new, he will say, oh yes, I see this or I didn't know that.
But if that person is a lier, he'll say "what about this one, what about that one" and you end up going round is cycles.
And if that person is arrogant and know it all... then he'll bombard you with a lot of "his knowledge", just intimidate...

What is the basis
So I don't want to sit here and argue. If we can't establish our basis, our witness, then we'll not agree.
To me, my witness is: the Quran, Hadiths and the Bible.

I said before that
Remember there is no court in the world in which the judge convicts a person before interviewing him, provided the accused is available and honors the summons.