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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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In reply to Nabwire
Hi ndio inaitwa serious political spin a la faux news!!! You've gotta be kidding me!!! US voting is extremely racial, there are areas where Democrats do not even bother campaigning coz they are considered red zones.
And what does this have to do with racial voting ?
Whites in deep south states Louisiana will happily vote for a hispanic person or even a muhindi if he is republican.
Do you know that the governors of South Carolina and Louisiana are wahindi ? And they ran against whites. Where is the racial voting there ? If USA was as racist as Kenya is tribal, wahindi, blacks and hispanics could never be elected.
In the Northeast, blacks are easily elected in States like Massachusets which is 90% white.
Obama campaign in 08 was vastly different than his '12 campaign, this is because they crunched numbers and strategized on areas where they would be wasting their time, TN, AL, GA, MS come to mind.
Again this has nothing to do with racial voting. What is your point ?
Even among special groups, there is a serious racial divide, white women vote completely different from black women, coz they have completely different issues they care about.
Yes they vote based on their personal interests not based on race.
That's why the term "women's" vote is a misnomer, there is no such thing. Hillary learned the hard way in 08, she assumed that she had the black and women vote, thats why her campaign was in shock and it took them quite a while before conceding that a junior Senator had indeed beaten them.
This debate has nothing to do with the womens vote. Again you are just rambling without addressing the issue at hand,
The US vote is extremely racial, till today you will find die hard tea party knuckleheads still insist that Obama only won because he was black.
Those are few and far between. After Having spent 15 years in the USA, I came to realize that racism does exist but not to the extent that tribalism exists in Kenya. In fact the USA is very tolerant. Obama could never be elected in Kenya. Some politicians would dismiss him as Kihii and get away with it. No such thing can happen in the USA.
Obama won because he offered change. Had he depended on his race he would have lost. So your point is is invalid. Obama won in 2008 because white liberals turned out in large numbers to vote for him. He even won Missouri which is 90% white. In 2012 he won Iowa which is 95% black. So much for racial voting.
Truth is Obama won in spite of being black, he had to convince liberal white voters to vote for him, otherwise he would have never won with just the black vote.
Thank you for contradicting yourself and thus proving your points invalid. Yes Obama won despite the fact that blacks are only 12% of America. Had this been Kenya he would have lost badly.
In summary , racism exists in USA but not to the extent that tribalism exists in Kenya.
Secondly, in the USA, ideology and personal interests far outweigh race. If this was not true, Obama could never win.
And back to the original point of this debate, Americans mostly vote based on issues not race or tribe. I have to laugh at those trying to compare Kenya to USA.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Alba wrote:In reply to Nabwire
Hi ndio inaitwa serious political spin a la faux news!!! You've gotta be kidding me!!! US voting is extremely racial, there are areas where Democrats do not even bother campaigning coz they are considered red zones.
And what does this have to do with racial voting ?
Whites in deep south states Louisiana will happily vote for a hispanic person or even a muhindi if he is republican.
Do you know that the governors of South Carolina and Louisiana are wahindi ? And they ran against whites. Where is the racial voting there ? If USA was as racist as Kenya is tribal, wahindi, blacks and hispanics could never be elected.
In the Northeast, blacks are easily elected in States like Massachusets which is 90% white.
Obama campaign in 08 was vastly different than his '12 campaign, this is because they crunched numbers and strategized on areas where they would be wasting their time, TN, AL, GA, MS come to mind.
Again this has nothing to do with racial voting. What is your point ?
Even among special groups, there is a serious racial divide, white women vote completely different from black women, coz they have completely different issues they care about.
Yes they vote based on their personal interests not based on race.
That's why the term "women's" vote is a misnomer, there is no such thing. Hillary learned the hard way in 08, she assumed that she had the black and women vote, thats why her campaign was in shock and it took them quite a while before conceding that a junior Senator had indeed beaten them.
This debate has nothing to do with the womens vote. Again you are just rambling without addressing the issue at hand,
The US vote is extremely racial, till today you will find die hard tea party knuckleheads still insist that Obama only won because he was black.
Those are few and far between. After Having spent 15 years in the USA, I came to realize that racism does exist but not to the extent that tribalism exists in Kenya. In fact the USA is very tolerant. Obama could never be elected in Kenya. Some politicians would dismiss him as Kihii and get away with it. No such thing can happen in the USA.
Obama won because he offered change. Had he depended on his race he would have lost. So your point is is invalid. Obama won in 2008 because white liberals turned out in large numbers to vote for him. He even won Missouri which is 90% white. In 2012 he won Iowa which is 95% black. So much for racial voting.
Truth is Obama won in spite of being black, he had to convince liberal white voters to vote for him, otherwise he would have never won with just the black vote.
Thank you for contradicting yourself and thus proving your points invalid. Yes Obama won despite the fact that blacks are only 12% of America. Had this been Kenya he would have lost badly.
In summary , racism exists in USA but not to the extent that tribalism exists in Kenya.
Secondly, in the USA, ideology and personal interests far outweigh race. If this was not true, Obama could never win.
And back to the original point of this debate, Americans mostly vote based on issues not race or tribe. I have to laugh at those trying to compare Kenya to USA. Now that you agree that the US is racial - even tho its not as tribal as we are* - then you should also note that tribalism is not the reason why poverty exists. Poverty is a mindset issue..the belief that nothing Kenyan is worth its salt hence the rush to get anything foreign. The belief that one can only make it in the city and if they have a white collar job. The belief that things cannot be done differently and they have to follow a pre-described pattern. That mindset is the root cause of poverty. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Boy oh boy! Where do I even begin, I assumed you would use some critical thinking, you dismiss tea party voters as few and far between then go ahead and give an example of Indian governors. How many Indian governors are there? You are going to use Bobby Jindal as an example and try to make it look like Republicans are falling over themselves voting Indians over themselves. Let me break it down for you, Republicans realized that they were losing out on the minority vote, thats why they pushed Jindal to counter Obama, unfortunately Jindal crashed and burned, so they moved on to a Hispanic candidate, it had nothing to do with voting an Indian over a White, it was all about winning.
I actually worked for the Obama campaign, thats why I'm outraged at your statement that there is very little racial voting in the US. before the endorsements, we were frequently hang up on, there were people who would tell you straight out that they cant vote for a nigger, thats why there is need to divide the US into red and blue zones. My point on the red zones is Democrats knew that majority of people in these states would hardly ever vote for a Democrat, now throw in voting for a black Democrat!! That's why Obama campaign vastly changed in '12, they simply stopped wasting time and resources in extremely red states, they instead focused on blue states and purple states, and also heavily registered voters especially in black and Hispanic areas. That's what Murchr was pointing, believe it or not, voter registration in these groups was very low. You cant just dismiss this, US voting is extremely racial, this has repeatedly been talked about in Newsweek and Time, but if you want to believe otherwise, hey its a free world! Both countries have their issues.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Nabwire wrote:Boy oh boy! Where do I even begin, I assumed you would use some critical thinking, you dismiss tea party voters as few and far between then go ahead and give an example of Indian governors. How many Indian governors are there? You are going to use Bobby Jindal as an example and try to make it look like Republicans are falling over themselves voting Indians over themselves. Let me break it down for you, Republicans realized that they were losing out on the minority vote, thats why they pushed Jindal to counter Obama, unfortunately Jindal crashed and burned, so they moved on to a Hispanic candidate, it had nothing to do with voting an Indian over a White, it was all about winning.
I actually worked for the Obama campaign, thats why I'm outraged at your statement that there is very little racial voting in the US. before the endorsements, we were frequently hang up on, there were people who would tell you straight out that they cant vote for a nigger, thats why there is need to divide the US into red and blue zones. My point on the red zones is Democrats knew that majority of people in these states would hardly ever vote for a Democrat, now throw in voting for a black Democrat!! That's why Obama campaign vastly changed in '12, they simply stopped wasting time and resources in extremely red states, they instead focused on blue states and purple states, and also heavily registered voters especially in black and Hispanic areas. That's what Murchr was pointing, believe it or not, voter registration in these groups was very low. You cant just dismiss this, US voting is extremely racial, this has repeatedly been talked about in Newsweek and Time, but if you want to believe otherwise, hey its a free world! Both countries have their issues. @Nabwire, I will side with Alba on this. I think you are confusing being a republican and being a racist. Not that there isn't racism in USA but we can all agree that racism do not define the out come of an election in USA. Red states do not mean they're racist states it means they are receptive of republican's message. Obama did what two democratic white canditates before him wasn't able to do..... and don't tell me he did it by turning out blacks because he is black.J Jackson ran and did not get the same reception from Blacks. By the way Bobby Jidal was elected a governor even before Obama became a candidate, infact republican did not have minority issue when Bobby was elected, so you cannot say republicans elected Jidal so save face. Obama won Iowa before any endorsement, IOWA is about 96% WHITES! can you explain that from the context of race? I think you might be overstating your understanding of USA politics, just because a few people could be racist doesn't mean the country is full of racism. In America, if you are articulated, sharp, clean cut, educated and do not look at things from the racism goggle( Like you are), one can go far but once the race goggle kick in then you're done.
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Misplaced priorities could be making us poorer.
Like all out on issues "United States" when the discussion is about Africa and poverty.
I'm just saying, don't lynch me.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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I will refer you to numerous online articles, what I stated above is not just my opinion, its the opinion of numerous reports. Racism is very much alive and well in the US, you may want people to believe differently, that the US is some kind of heaven, thats your prerogative. I will not argue on trivial issues! California is largely a blue state, that does not in anyway mean that there are no racists in CA. People romanticized Obama's campaign and made it look like the endorsements and victory just came by so easily. No, there were groups of people who had to work very hard to ensure that, Obama's victory was no walk in the park. Racism threatened the campaign very much, you'd see it in tea party rallies where Obama was depicted as an African witch doctor, there were unsuccessful attempts at trying to depict Michelle as an angry black woman, even Obama's kids were fair game. Thats why the campaign rolled out heavy publicity to counter all that, with numerous mentions of Obama's white mother and grandparents to remind white voters that he wasn't this black panther type of caricature that faux news was trying to paint.
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Ya this reason of being that Kenya is being more tribal than racism is true.Obama was voted more by white and of couse blacks including all liberals meaning they were looking for change than race.And true based on arguments here if it was in Kenya he could have easily been dismissed as Kihii and flops in his election.In that case Kenyans voters should be more wiser and votes for development issues than tribal affiliations.Otherwise we are not going anywhere soon.kama sisa hizi za ukubafu na mikate nusu.
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Nabwire wrote:I will refer you to numerous online articles, what I stated above is not just my opinion, its the opinion of numerous reports. Racism is very much alive and well in the US, you may want people to believe differently, that the US is some kind of heaven, thats your prerogative. I will not argue on trivial issues! California is largely a blue state, that does not in anyway mean that there are no racists in CA. People romanticized Obama's campaign and made it look like the endorsements and victory just came by so easily. No, there were groups of people who had to work very hard to ensure that, Obama's victory was no walk in the park. Racism threatened the campaign very much, you'd see it in tea party rallies where Obama was depicted as an African witch doctor, there were unsuccessful attempts at trying to depict Michelle as an angry black woman, even Obama's kids were fair game. Thats why the campaign rolled out heavy publicity to counter all that, with numerous mentions of Obama's white mother and grandparents to remind white voters that he wasn't this black panther type of caricature that faux news was trying to paint. @Nabwire, It's not the issue of, "is there racism in USA?" it's the issue of, "is there enough racism in USA to impact an election?" I think we already have the answer for that question, the answer is NO, there isn't enough racists people to impact elections in USA but in Kenya there is enough tribalists to impact an election. I don't know what you are trying to explain here?
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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Is Africa really that poor ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Nabwire wrote:Boy oh boy! Where do I even begin, I assumed you would use some critical thinking, you dismiss tea party voters
as few and far between
I see you have comprehension skills. I said racist tea partiers are few and far between. I know some and even have co-workers who are tea partiers. Not all tea partiers are racist. The right in America will demonize whomever is the dempcratic leader. When Clinton was Prezzi, he too was hated by the right. Quote:
then go ahead and give an example of Indian governors. How many Indian governors are there? You are going to use Bobby Jindal as an example and try to make it look like Republicans are falling over themselves voting Indians over themselves.
Again your comprehension skills fail you. I never said republicans are falling over themselves. But the fact that they elected two Indian governors (including Nikki Haley) means they are very open to voting for non-whites. You think Kenyans would vote for Muhindi as governor ? Never Quote:
Let me break it down for you, Republicans realized that they were losing out on the minority vote, thats why they pushed Jindal to counter Obama, unfortunately Jindal crashed and burned, so they moved on to a Hispanic candidate, it had nothing to do with voting an Indian over a White,
Thats bogus.Jindal came to prominence long before Obama was elected. He won the republican primary for governor as far back as 2003, Won a congressional seat in 2004 and was elected governor in 2008. So your point is ivalid. I suppose you think republicans also elected the other muhindi Nikki Haley just to counter Obama. Also there have been several prominent hispanic republicans long before they needed to counter Obama. Quote:
it was all about winning.
I actually worked for the Obama campaign, thats why I'm outraged at your statement that there is very little racial voting in the US. before the endorsements, we were frequently hang up on, there were people who would tell you straight out that they cant vote for a nigger, thats why there is need to divide the US into red and blue zones. My point on the red zones is Democrats knew that majority of people in these states would hardly ever vote for a Democrat, now throw in voting for a black Democrat!! That's why Obama campaign vastly changed in '12, they simply stopped wasting time and resources in extremely red states,
Your point about red states is has nothing to do with race. Nowadays a democrat cannot win in the deep south whether he is black or white. Obama did not loose red states like Texas because he is black. He lost because he is democrat. John Kerry and Al Gore also lost throughout the south. And they are snow white. Quote:
they instead focused on blue states and purple states, and also heavily registered voters especially in black and Hispanic areas. That's what Murchr was pointing, believe it or not, voter registration in these groups was very low.
You and him are both confused. You are raising issues that have nothing to do with Obama's blackness. Some of the so called purple states like Iowa and Rhode Island have hardly any black people yet Obama won them. That shows whites are willing to vote for blacks. This can never happen in Kenya because we are far too tribal. And this is why Africa is a black hole. We are very primitive when it comes to tribalism yet we are quick to blame wazungu for racism. Kenyans are hypocrites. Na hiyo ni ukweli. A candidate in Kenya who runs an issue oriented election is doomed to loose. In USA you have to run on issues. Blacks vote for democrats because there economic interests such as affirmative action are supported by democrats. Of Obama simply said vote for me because I am black, far fewer blacks would have voted You cant just dismiss this, US voting is extremely racial, this has repeatedly been talked about in Newsweek and Time, but if you want to believe otherwise, hey its a free world! Both countries have their issues.[/quote]
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Rollout wrote:Nabwire wrote:I will refer you to numerous online articles, what I stated above is not just my opinion, its the opinion of numerous reports. Racism is very much alive and well in the US, you may want people to believe differently, that the US is some kind of heaven, thats your prerogative. I will not argue on trivial issues! California is largely a blue state, that does not in anyway mean that there are no racists in CA. People romanticized Obama's campaign and made it look like the endorsements and victory just came by so easily. No, there were groups of people who had to work very hard to ensure that, Obama's victory was no walk in the park. Racism threatened the campaign very much, you'd see it in tea party rallies where Obama was depicted as an African witch doctor, there were unsuccessful attempts at trying to depict Michelle as an angry black woman, even Obama's kids were fair game. Thats why the campaign rolled out heavy publicity to counter all that, with numerous mentions of Obama's white mother and grandparents to remind white voters that he wasn't this black panther type of caricature that faux news was trying to paint. @Nabwire, It's not the issue of, "is there racism in USA?" it's the issue of, "is there enough racism in USA to impact an election?" I think we already have the answer for that question, the answer is NO, there isn't enough racists people to impact elections in USA but in Kenya there is enough tribalists to impact an election. I don't know what you are trying to explain here? I am glad I am not the only one who thinks Nabwire is utterly and completely confused. She has not made a single valid point in her ramblings. And she probably will not. I've made my point. So thats a wrap for me on this thread
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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murchr wrote:[quote=Alba]In reply to Nabwire
Now that you agree that the US is racial - even tho its not as tribal as we are* - then you should also note that tribalism is not the reason why poverty exists.
Poverty is a mindset issue..the belief that nothing Kenyan is worth its salt hence the rush to get anything foreign. The belief that one can only make it in the city and if they have a white collar job. The belief that things cannot be done differently and they have to follow a pre-described pattern. That mindset is the root cause of poverty. The US is not as racial as Kenya is tribal. This could not be more obvious. Obama would have zero chance of being elected in Kenya. Racism does not hold the US back as much as tribalism holds Kenya back In Kenya, tribalism prevents us from holding leaders accountable. It causes us to vote for people who clear do not deserve office e.g. Kibaki who with his lazy / dont care attitude. Poverty starts at the very top with policies instituted by the president on downwards. If you have an incompetent man at the top, the country is doomed. Tribalism is also the only reason the PEV 2007 happened. Tension and fighting between ethnic groups is common all over Africa and is a key reason for causing poverty. Tribalism also means that tenders, contracts and positions do not go to the most competent people but to people in politically correct tribes. Tribalism has also historically caused government investments to be made in regions that are not worth investing in. The Eldoret airport is an example of a white elephant built based on tribalism Tribalism is not the only factor causing poverty. But it is a major factor.
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Alba wrote:Rollout wrote:Nabwire wrote:I will refer you to numerous online articles, what I stated above is not just my opinion, its the opinion of numerous reports. Racism is very much alive and well in the US, you may want people to believe differently, that the US is some kind of heaven, thats your prerogative. I will not argue on trivial issues! California is largely a blue state, that does not in anyway mean that there are no racists in CA. People romanticized Obama's campaign and made it look like the endorsements and victory just came by so easily. No, there were groups of people who had to work very hard to ensure that, Obama's victory was no walk in the park. Racism threatened the campaign very much, you'd see it in tea party rallies where Obama was depicted as an African witch doctor, there were unsuccessful attempts at trying to depict Michelle as an angry black woman, even Obama's kids were fair game. Thats why the campaign rolled out heavy publicity to counter all that, with numerous mentions of Obama's white mother and grandparents to remind white voters that he wasn't this black panther type of caricature that faux news was trying to paint. As a matter of fact, I am beginning to think Nabwire is probably trying to scare other Kenyans by invoking the fact that she worked for Obama campaign.......... I think she is less interested in facts..... @Nabwire, It's not the issue of, "is there racism in USA?" it's the issue of, "is there enough racism in USA to impact an election?" I think we already have the answer for that question, the answer is NO, there isn't enough racists people to impact elections in USA but in Kenya there is enough tribalists to impact an election. I don't know what you are trying to explain here? I am glad I am not the only one who thinks Nabwire is utterly and completely confused. She has not made a single valid point in her ramblings. And she probably will not. I've made my point. So thats a wrap for me on this thread
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@ Alba,
I think you are new here so let me help you out. Murchr is someone you don't wanna engage because of so many reason but in short, Murchr has in the past supported Gaddafi and called him all the good names, he is also against ICC and think RAILA is controlling ICC. so thats the kind of person you are dealing with.
Nabwire on the other hand is sometimes sober and intelligent but She would regulary suprise you with wild allegations, I believe she reside in USA and is probably 3-6yrs into her stay in the USA. I know you've been in USA for sometime and you will understand when someone living in USA start highlighting racism, it is most likely when they realized that their dreams of being that highflying professional is slipping away and suddenly they start holding onto and highlighting at every opportunity a small achievement( like an opportunity to work for a campaign for free) while pointing to everyone how racism is so bad that she/he couldn't make it far..... I know you can understand that.
Now about me, my name is Drunkard 10k Rollout, I am one of the most hated guy in wazua, I am everything you don't wanna be here, and I love it.
@Nabwire and Murchr,no hard feeling,lunch on me if you'll ever see me in person.
Welcome to Wazua!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Alba wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=Alba]In reply to Nabwire
Now that you agree that the US is racial - even tho its not as tribal as we are* - then you should also note that tribalism is not the reason why poverty exists.
Poverty is a mindset issue..the belief that nothing Kenyan is worth its salt hence the rush to get anything foreign. The belief that one can only make it in the city and if they have a white collar job. The belief that things cannot be done differently and they have to follow a pre-described pattern. That mindset is the root cause of poverty. The US is not as racial as Kenya is tribal. Excellent..Agreed This could not be more obvious. Obama would have zero chance of being elected in Kenya. He would be elected if he had the right combination. Just like he had the right combination in 2012 Racism does not hold the US back as much as tribalism holds Kenya back This is where i differ with you because the tribe does not think rather individuals do. I wouldn't mind having individuals of the same tribe as long as they delivered.....we fail when we start counting how many tribes are represented where etc..when we focus on results then we are bound to get the change we needIn Kenya, tribalism prevents us from holding leaders accountable Think. Every MPIG represents a constituency that has a majority native tribe apart from the cities esp Nrb very few constituencies have elected a non-native eg Kisumu and Meru.. It causes us to vote for people who clear do not deserve office e.g. Kibaki who with his lazy / dont care attitude Apparently this lazy man delivered tangible results despite the politics, you've been to the US for 15 years tembea you see real change. Poverty starts at the very top with policies instituted by the president on downwards Agreed, but poverty is a mindset. As I explained earlier. Perhaps for discussion sake, you may state a policy you know that has caused poverty esp in the Kibaki era. 1 Example Kazi kwa vijana. If you have an incompetent man at the top, the country is doomed. Tribalism is also the only reason the PEV 2007 happened. Tension and fighting between ethnic groups is common all over Africa and is a key reason for causing poverty. Tribalism also means that tenders, contracts and positions do not go to the most competent people but to people in politically correct tribes That happens everywhere, and its worse even in the richest countries. Note the lobbying that is done by parties before elections esp US . Tribalism has also historically caused government investments to be made in regions that are not worth investing in. The Eldoret airport is an example of a white elephant built based on tribalism Its possible it was a white elephant then but now ELD Airport is a cargo hub which is very busy and requires expansion. By the way, while you were away several other airports have bee built here and there...google is your friend. Anyway...why should the executive propose a white elephant project and parliament approves? What are the representatives of the others doing? Tribalism is not the only factor causing poverty. But it is a major factor. Its not a factor at all. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rollout wrote:@ Alba,
I think you are new here so let me help you out. Murchr is someone you don't wanna engage because of so many reason but in short, Murchr has in the past supported Gaddafi and called him all the good names, he is also against ICC and think RAILA is controlling ICC. so thats the kind of person you are dealing with.
Nabwire on the other hand is sometimes sober and intelligent but She would regulary suprise you with wild allegations, I believe she reside in USA and is probably 3-6yrs into her stay in the USA. I know you've been in USA for sometime and you will understand when someone living in USA start highlighting racism, it is most likely when they realized that their dreams of being that highflying professional is slipping away and suddenly they start holding onto and highlighting at every opportunity a small achievement( like an opportunity to work for a campaign for free) while pointing to everyone how racism is so bad that she/he couldn't make it far..... I know you can understand that.
Now about me, my name is Drunkard 10k Rollout, I am one of the most hated guy in wazua, I am everything you don't wanna be here, and I love it.
@Nabwire and Murchr,no hard feeling,lunch on me if you'll ever see me in person.
Welcome to Wazua!
Drunkard if only those Libyans and Egyptians listened to me....If only "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2011 Posts: 264 Location: Nairobi
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Man these videos are awesome. Share it on the Economy Watch thread and urge everyone to share them. Share with your children and relatives and your chamas. If you're a teacher, share them with your school children. Also read the Growth Chapters of Olivier Blanchard's 'Macroeconomics' if you haven't. Google it.
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Africa was cursed, but in Jesus name we shall prevail
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obiero wrote:Africa was cursed, but in Jesus name we shall prevail So we have been holding the same view! I see. I had just seen somewhere that Congolese are on streets as Kabila seeks term extension. Mwafrika alilaaniwa! Most of us are just but educated fools, theoretical strategists filled with selfish pride and greed. Mzungu should have stayed longer. Maybe intermarriage would have helped us. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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