Now that you agree that the US is racial - even tho its not as tribal as we are* - then you should also note that tribalism is not the reason why poverty exists.

Poverty is a mindset issue..the belief that nothing Kenyan is worth its salt hence the rush to get anything foreign. The belief that one can only make it in the city and if they have a white collar job. The belief that things cannot be done differently and they have to follow a pre-described pattern. That mindset is the root cause of poverty.

@Nabwire,

I will side with Alba on this. I think you are confusing being a republican and being a racist.
Not that there isn't racism in USA but we can all agree that racism do not define the out come of an election in USA. Red states do not mean they're racist states it means they are receptive of republican's message.

Obama did what two democratic white canditates before him wasn't able to do..... and don't tell me he did it by turning out blacks because he is black.J Jackson ran and did not get the same reception from Blacks. By the way Bobby Jidal was elected a governor even before Obama became a candidate, infact republican did not have minority issue when Bobby was elected, so you cannot say republicans elected Jidal so save face.

Obama won Iowa before any endorsement, IOWA is about 96% WHITES! can you explain that from the context of race? I think you might be overstating your understanding of USA politics, just because a few people could be racist doesn't mean the country is full of racism.

In America, if you are articulated, sharp, clean cut, educated and do not look at things from the racism goggle( Like you are), one can go far but once the race goggle kick in then you're done.

I will refer you to numerous online articles, what I stated above is not just my opinion, its the opinion of numerous reports. Racism is very much alive and well in the US, you may want people to believe differently, that the US is some kind of heaven, thats your prerogative. I will not argue on trivial issues! California is largely a blue state, that does not in anyway mean that there are no racists in CA. People romanticized Obama's campaign and made it look like the endorsements and victory just came by so easily. No, there were groups of people who had to work very hard to ensure that, Obama's victory was no walk in the park. Racism threatened the campaign very much, you'd see it in tea party rallies where Obama was depicted as an African witch doctor, there were unsuccessful attempts at trying to depict Michelle as an angry black woman, even Obama's kids were fair game. Thats why the campaign rolled out heavy publicity to counter all that, with numerous mentions of Obama's white mother and grandparents to remind white voters that he wasn't this black panther type of caricature that faux news was trying to paint.

@Nabwire,

It's not the issue of, "is there racism in USA?" it's the issue of, "is there enough racism in USA to impact an election?" I think we already have the answer for that question, the answer is NO, there isn't enough racists people to impact elections in USA but in Kenya there is enough tribalists to impact an election.

I don't know what you are trying to explain here?

I see you have comprehension skills. I said racist tea partiers are few and far between. I know some and even have co-workers who are tea partiers. Not all tea partiers are racist.

The right in America will demonize whomever is the dempcratic leader. When Clinton was Prezzi, he too was hated by the right.


Again your comprehension skills fail you. I never said republicans are falling over themselves. But the fact that they elected two Indian governors (including Nikki Haley) means they are very open to voting for non-whites. You think Kenyans would vote for Muhindi as governor ? Never



Thats bogus.Jindal came to prominence long before Obama was elected. He won the republican primary for governor as far back as 2003, Won a congressional seat in 2004 and was elected governor in 2008. So your point is ivalid.

I suppose you think republicans also elected the other muhindi Nikki Haley just to counter Obama.

Also there have been several prominent hispanic republicans long before they needed to counter Obama.



Your point about red states is has nothing to do with race. Nowadays a democrat cannot win in the deep south whether he is black or white. Obama did not loose red states like Texas because he is black. He lost because he is democrat. John Kerry and Al Gore also lost throughout the south. And they are snow white.




You and him are both confused. You are raising issues that have nothing to do with Obama's blackness.

Some of the so called purple states like Iowa and Rhode Island have hardly any black people yet Obama won them. That shows whites are willing to vote for blacks.

This can never happen in Kenya because we are far too tribal. And this is why Africa is a black hole. We are very primitive when it comes to tribalism yet we are quick to blame wazungu for racism. Kenyans are hypocrites. Na hiyo ni ukweli.

A candidate in Kenya who runs an issue oriented election is doomed to loose.

In USA you have to run on issues. Blacks vote for democrats because there economic interests such as affirmative action are supported by democrats. Of Obama simply said vote for me because I am black, far fewer blacks would have voted

You cant just dismiss this, US voting is extremely racial, this has repeatedly been talked about in Newsweek and Time, but if you want to believe otherwise, hey its a free world! Both countries have their issues.[/quote]