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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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McReggae wrote:Sometimes it's difficult to have all the necessary numbers on the new SIM.....I simply go to the number, click edit copy the number and paste on the MPesa menu.....no chance of losing my money!!! Ditto! If you have a smart phone, best way to do it. On iOS, if you long press, an option to 'copy' comes up. On Android, if you long press a contact, it gives you the option to 'copy to clipboard'. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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Hiram just called me a few minutes ago and promises to send back my money.Am optimistic. @Muheani and Kingfisher still need your help.Kingfisher check your inbox. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2012 Posts: 257
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keraka wrote:Thanks all for the great advice and keep them coming.Hope they get to help a brother and another Wazuan in future.
Meanwhile made some progress,Through a contact in a local financial institution,entry of his phone number in the system managed to get additional information here below
Name;Hiram Kiruiro Waweru
Id No:12485116
Address; P.O Box 26 Nyahururu.
The last time the CID guys tracked the number it was in Silibwet a few kms from Bomet/Tenwek.To say the least, ill not relent till i get back my money.
Kingfisher check inbox. With this information you can post an ad in the newspaper and identify him as a fraudster.Don't forget to include the photo.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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washiku wrote:King G wrote:Much Know wrote:washiku wrote:Much Know wrote:@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe. According to me, the info availed here is already enough to make that friend lose his job in Safcom. Especially if his day to day work does not include querying customers' number in the system. This i don't believe is true! Just keep name secret, safaricom can do nothing, perhaps they don't really care. Security logs and system logs. Boss in a serious system (and i expect safaricom to be IT savvy), anything you do is recorded somewhere and filled. What guys are saying which is true is that if somebody wanted to dig up you viewed this numbers and gave out the names, they can the person. By the way we are not saying this out of malice but educating the masses. @ Much Know, on this one, umenoa. Do you know something called system logs? Audit trails? You dont need the names...by the way many people could share the names, so that is not a necessity in this case, what is unique is the username...there arent two users who share the same username in the system. That, my friend, is the catch. maybe more than one person has accessed that number. and maybe they all have plausible reasons for checking. don't know about how safaricom work but they could all have been in call centre and received a call about a transfer to a wrong number. they then checked whom it was registered to, logged the complaint then told the caller that they can't give customer information but the complaint has been logged etc. keraka in the meantime may say he/she was just making up stories about getting the info from safaricom employee and that the information was actually given by the hiram guy when he first called.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Tyranny again yawa tho! Thieves
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/31/2009 Posts: 743
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vky wrote:Much Know wrote:I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed! unless i am getting you wrong, your logic will fail at the sim replacement phase being that you will have his mame and ID details only but for you to replace the sim you will need his pin number that is on the the card that comes with the sim card and in absence of this they will ask you a host of questions to verify the line as yours some of them being m pesa secret word and m pesa pin if you dont have this info you wont replace the line smart!!!!
Problems can get out of proportion, and not only in the wee small hours. Don't let the problems eclipse the Master. Let the Master eclipse the problems.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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FancyFace wrote:vky wrote:Much Know wrote:I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed! unless i am getting you wrong, your logic will fail at the sim replacement phase being that you will have his mame and ID details only but for you to replace the sim you will need his pin number that is on the the card that comes with the sim card and in absence of this they will ask you a host of questions to verify the line as yours some of them being m pesa secret word and m pesa pin if you dont have this info you wont replace the line smart!!!! Hai!wezi hawa watatorokea hapo? Is it possible safcom friend steal PIN, unless you bahatisha 0000 ama that's end of the road if you loose your cash to a bugger who switches off phone.  , never mind it's identity theft but hope some have the roho to go through. A New Kenya
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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Mjasirii wrote:keraka wrote:Thanks all for the great advice and keep them coming.Hope they get to help a brother and another Wazuan in future.
Meanwhile made some progress,Through a contact in a local financial institution,entry of his phone number in the system managed to get additional information here below
Name;Hiram Kiruiro Waweru
Id No:12485116
Address; P.O Box 26 Nyahururu.
The last time the CID guys tracked the number it was in Silibwet a few kms from Bomet/Tenwek.To say the least, ill not relent till i get back my money.
Kingfisher check inbox. With this information you can post an ad in the newspaper and identify him as a fraudster.Don't forget to include the photo. Just seen this and thanks for updating everyone. There was something that was in the news about last year where a Policeman sent money to the wrong number and the recipient withdrew and switched off his phone. The Police tracked him and finally arrested him and a case was filed in court. Relatives refunded the money to the police officer for an out of court agreement. I do not know what they would charge the guy with (may be theft) but if they can take him to court, you have better chances. He should be made to return the money plus all the expenses you have incurred to look for him. Do not relent.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Muheani wrote:@keraka and @rahatupu. i might be able to get someone to call and assist. Pls do help. inbox me how at rahatupu at ymail dot com
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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Ngogoyo wrote:JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake So, when you got to know, what did you do? I am almost sure if you had called Safaricom, they would have contacted the guy in coast. Can you convince us that you are not a thief?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/16/2009 Posts: 1,464
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tassia wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake So, when you got to know, what did you do? I am almost sure if you had called Safaricom, they would have contacted the guy in coast. Can you convince us that you are not a thief?  Kweli guys here take no prisoners. I support the idea that you call Safcom and refund the chums.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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keraka wrote:Thanks all for the great advice and keep them coming.Hope they get to help a brother and another Wazuan in future.
Meanwhile made some progress,Through a contact in a local financial institution,entry of his phone number in the system managed to get additional information here below
Name;Hiram Kiruiro Waweru
Id No:12485116
Address; P.O Box 26 Nyahururu.
The last time the CID guys tracked the number it was in Silibwet a few kms from Bomet/Tenwek.To say the least, ill not relent till i get back my money.
Kingfisher check inbox. @waweru, ISOKEI. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Pierce wrote:tassia wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake So, when you got to know, what did you do? I am almost sure if you had called Safaricom, they would have contacted the guy in coast. Can you convince us that you are not a thief? Kweli guys here take no prisoners. I support the idea that you call Safcom and refund the chums. There is no similarity in cases, plus ngoyoyo can see phone number in mpesa message, but jkmwatha case his money has "mixed" with 8,000/- which could even be a refund for a cancelled transaction, he can continue chewing the money till he reconciiles his mpesa and calls safcom if necessary. A New Kenya
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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tassia wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake So, when you got to know, what did you do? I am almost sure if you had called Safaricom, they would have contacted the guy in coast. Can you convince us that you are not a thief? to be honest, i didn't call no safcom and i have no plan to. so i spent the cash and have no apologies. I consider it 'unsolicited loan' which i will pay when back there, if ever will  . Happy now.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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keraka wrote:Hiram just called me a few minutes ago and promises to send back my money.Am optimistic.
@Muheani and Kingfisher still need your help.Kingfisher check your inbox. i have been informed you are going to smile in the next few minutes sir
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Ngogoyo wrote:tassia wrote:Ngogoyo wrote:JkMwatha wrote:Flipside
I got an addition 8k into my mpesa.... dont know where it came from.
Left it there for 2 days expecting safcom to withdraw it, but nothing.
No record of anyone sending me the money, just and extra 8k on top of my balance.
Not that I'm complaining.... just wondering if this has happened to anyone? @jkmwatha. got an almost similar one where i deposited cash in a hurry at the coast. didn't want to travel with too much cash, the dude deposited double. got to know nikifika Nai. I dont know when i will be in the Raha again. pole kwake So, when you got to know, what did you do? I am almost sure if you had called Safaricom, they would have contacted the guy in coast. Can you convince us that you are not a thief? to be honest, i didn't call no safcom and i have no plan to. so i spent the cash and have no apologies. I consider it 'unsolicited loan' which i will pay when back there, if ever will . Happy now. Worse than Kethief. You stole from the individual, only good you return it. Thieves
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/14/2010 Posts: 84 Location: Nairobi
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@keraka, I hope you recover your hard earned money very soon. My quickest option:Report the case to CID and allege that you were accosted by thugs who forced you at gun point to send the money to that number... then sit and watch the drama, he will return the money ASAP. NB: the fact that he transfered it to another number will tilt the story to your favour. keraka wrote:Just Lost a substantial amount of money through mpesa,which was meant to be School fees for kerakalet.
Yesterday, I Was meant to send to the School MPesa Number but missed two digits and the amount went to one Hiram Kiruiro of phone no.0722215845 who according to information i obtained from a friend in Safcom immediately transferred it to another number 0701152055.Hence according to Safcom I have no remedy at that point to reverse the transaction.
The first no.Went mteja since then but the 2nd number is on and off and the guy who seldom receives it confirms that he is a businessman in Holla and the amount sent to him was by a random customer among many who use his shop as an Mpesa withdrawal point(Note; its his number but not mpesa Agency)
Checking up the fisrt number in trucaller brings out the name Water Hilram
Any advice from the virtual republic of wazua on how to recover my money will be greatly appreciated.
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