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LOST MONEY THRO' MPESA
mkenyan
#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:27:29 AM
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Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 1,885
digitek1 wrote:
keraka wrote:
Just Lost a substantial amount of money through mpesa,which was meant to be School fees for kerakalet.
Yesterday, I Was meant to send to the School MPesa Number but missed two digits and the amount went to one Hiram Kiruiro of phone no.0722215845 who according to information i obtained from a friend in Safcom immediately transferred it to another number 0701152055.Hence according to Safcom I have no remedy at that point to reverse the transaction.
The first no.Went mteja since then but the 2nd number is on and off and the guy who seldom receives it confirms that he is a businessman in Holla and the amount sent to him was by a random customer among many who use his shop as an Mpesa withdrawal point(Note; its his number but not mpesa Agency)

Checking up the fisrt number in trucaller brings out the name Water Hilram
Any advice from the virtual republic of wazua on how to recover my money will be greatly appreciated.

create a hash tag and pester bob

yes. take it to twitter. they seem to respond to bad publicity on twitter.
Bigchick
#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:50:21 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/8/2013
Posts: 4,068
Location: At Large.
I honestly believe safcom should have a way of recovering cash for someone subject to terms and conditions to avoid abuse.

They can flag the account upon receiving a complaint and when it has money they freeze it till the matter is sorted by the two parties.

I once sent 30k to a wrong number.....I called safcom immediately and by the time they acted which was like in 3mins the guy had transferred 4650.They froze the balance.

I called the guy who told me he was in a noisy matatu but would call me immediately he alighted.

So I waited.........after 30 mins the guy calls.....and what does he tell me.

"Umbwa.......M**aya wewe!.Kwanini umeshtaki hiyo ingine kwa safaricom.

I did not pursue it further coz it was apparent that was not a guy to argue with, but I got back the frozen amount.
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quicksand
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:02:37 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
mkenyan wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
keraka wrote:
Just Lost a substantial amount of money through mpesa,which was meant to be School fees for kerakalet.
Yesterday, I Was meant to send to the School MPesa Number but missed two digits and the amount went to one Hiram Kiruiro of phone no.0722215845 who according to information i obtained from a friend in Safcom immediately transferred it to another number 0701152055.Hence according to Safcom I have no remedy at that point to reverse the transaction.
The first no.Went mteja since then but the 2nd number is on and off and the guy who seldom receives it confirms that he is a businessman in Holla and the amount sent to him was by a random customer among many who use his shop as an Mpesa withdrawal point(Note; its his number but not mpesa Agency)

Checking up the fisrt number in trucaller brings out the name Water Hilram
Any advice from the virtual republic of wazua on how to recover my money will be greatly appreciated.

create a hash tag and pester bob

yes. take it to twitter. they seem to respond to bad publicity on twitter.

...you have already placed your friend at risk by posting this here with number details,..if you ante up the publicity, system traces could get run (if they haven't already) and then he/she will be hauled in front of a disciplinary panel for wrongful data access ....think carefully, for your friends sake
MKWASI
#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:21:58 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 4/20/2012
Posts: 888
Bigchick wrote:
I honestly believe safcom should have a way of recovering cash for someone subject to terms and conditions to avoid abuse.

They can flag the account upon receiving a complaint and when it has money they freeze it till the matter is sorted by the two parties.

I once sent 30k to a wrong number.....I called safcom immediately and by the time they acted which was like in 3mins the guy had transferred 4650.They froze the balance.

I called the guy who told me he was in a noisy matatu but would call me immediately he alighted.

So I waited.........after 30 mins the guy calls.....and what does he tell me.

"Umbwa.......M**aya wewe!.Kwanini umeshtaki hiyo ingine kwa safaricom.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly it is as if the money was his/hers!!

I did not pursue it further coz it was apparent that was not a guy to argue with, but I got back the frozen amount.

mukiha
#35 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:26:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
@keraka; I must say I feel sorry for you for losing a whole term's school fees...several tens of thousands, perhaps...

I once lost a small amount while paying my water bill... about 500 bob. I only realised the mistake when my water was disconnected. On checking the MPESA SMS, I noticed the mistake and had to pay again plus reconnection fees.

On that day I went straight to a SCOM shop and changed my SIM card to the modern one that from which I can pick numbers directly using the MPESA function.... This cost only 50 bob.

From that day, I never ever key in numbers directly. If you want me to send you some money, you have to flash me first, then I save that number and retrieve it using MPESA function.

Therefore, I feel compelled to give this
NOTICE TO ALL MPESA USERS
Please replace your sim card with one that can lift numbers from the phone book. This will cost 50 bob and save you future agony
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Um Sayala
#36 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:52:04 AM
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Location: Sudan
@kareka
Pole sana ndugu. Hope you get some help
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mukiha
#37 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:55:06 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
washiku wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
King G wrote:
About the lost money Sad Sad Sad i cant help.

But going forward, change your simcard to the new upgraded ones where you pick the number from your call list. Ni 50 bob tu and you will be safe bro.


If it's an android phone, numbers are saved huko kwa 'cloud' contacts list not on the sim.

For android phones, there's a free application that one can download from google play called Copy to Sim Card. When using it, you can then select all the numbers in your contact list and they'll be saved in the sim card. If you have the simcard that @King G is talking about, then you don't have to note down the number you are sending to, you'll just search contacts on the mpesa send money menu.


But how many contacts can the simcard accomodate? Very few. These smart phones have over 1000 contacts...


What I do is only save numbers that I need to pay in the SIM....they are not that many! All the others are in the phone memory.

But this is an indicator of a problem we are facing in modern society - too much unnecessary information. For crying out loud, you only have about 7 people you call regularly; why do you need a phone-book with 700? Is it just because the phone has space for 1,000 or is it "just incase" you need to call the other 693 one day?

Let me see a show of hands: how many of you "clean up" your phone-books regularly? that is, going through the whole list and deleting contacts that you know you will never call again [e.g., dumped lovers, fired house girls etc]?

I do, but I still have 223 contacts in phone memory, 95 in MPESA SIM and 199 in SIM2... that's 517!!

Time to do another clean-up......
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
McReggae
#38 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:00:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Sometimes it's difficult to have all the necessary numbers on the new SIM.....I simply go to the number, click edit copy the number and paste on the MPesa menu.....no chance of losing my money!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Much Know
#39 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:04:07 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed!
Ras Kienyeji Man
McReggae
#40 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:11:22 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Much Know wrote:
I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed!


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..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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