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KCBGroup reports H1 PBT 2013 +19%
kripp
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:59:14 AM
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I have always wondered why in this age of IT our banks require two months or more to release their financial results?

I believe that all financial institutions especially banks "reconcile" their affairs fully at the end of each busines day and for the external audit, the half-year exercise is only a limited review and not a full audit, an exercise than can be completed within a week.

So why are financial institutions in Kenya unable to release their results within 30 days of the reporting date?

Then the dividends (if you are lucky) are released a whole six months after the reporting date yet these are cash-rich enterprises!

Shareholders deserve better.
hisah
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:10:29 PM
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I thought the long delay was coz of bad results, but seems KCB has proved me wrong. International biz PBT up 72% (from 0.6B to 1.1B) is the item that has caught my eye...

With Total Assets now valued at 371 billion ($4.26B) this bank is still churning profits way below that asset base.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:12:18 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Jigga wrote:
Quite impressive performance by the lion. waiting for the share to hit Ksh50!!

If this Syria issue lasts longer, the share prices might stagnate or tank. Or what do you think?

Let the market tank so that quality stocks become cheaper for better buy entry prices (fat discounts) smile

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
dunkang
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:18:14 PM
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hisah wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Jigga wrote:
Quite impressive performance by the lion. waiting for the share to hit Ksh50!!

If this Syria issue lasts longer, the share prices might stagnate or tank. Or what do you think?

Let the market tank so that quality stocks become cheaper for better buy entry prices (fat discounts) smile


I welcome that too!

Would you mind explaining why this Syria thing is affecting Kenyan bourse, since its truely affecting it? Just Why?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

The Merchant
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:40:47 PM
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dunkang wrote:
hisah wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Jigga wrote:
Quite impressive performance by the lion. waiting for the share to hit Ksh50!!

If this Syria issue lasts longer, the share prices might stagnate or tank. Or what do you think?

Let the market tank so that quality stocks become cheaper for better buy entry prices (fat discounts) smile


I welcome that too!

Would you mind explaining why this Syria thing is affecting Kenyan bourse, since its truely affecting it? Just Why?

Because in times of CRISIS such as this, investors flee to safe (read USD denominated) assets and exit riskier assets such as emerging markets, commodities and EM currencies. I am actually surprised that the Kenyan market has held up very well so far.
erifloss
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:43:06 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Jigga wrote:
Quite impressive performance by the lion. waiting for the share to hit Ksh50!!

If this Syria issue lasts longer, the share prices might stagnate or tank. Or what do you think?

@dunkang, i don't think so. Look at the aftershocks of the Afghan and Iraq wars and you'll realise that we are safe. The other reason is that the current growth has been mainly internally driven and with the Federal Reserve's rethink on QE, you'll realise Kenya has not been affected as opposed to economies like India's that are highly reliant on external forces.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
Jamani
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:21:52 PM
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"KCB is now ranked Kenya’s most profitable lender ahead of Equity which posted Sh6.3 billion in half-year profits and Co-operative Bank at Sh4.7 billion.

The bank’s staff costs increased seven per cent to Sh6.3 billion, attributed to a Sh750 million one-off cost in laying off 200 staff members early this year.

KCB’s volume of bad loans was up 73 per cent to Sh8.8billion, blamed on a government freeze on paying State suppliers in the run up to the March poll.

This is in line with an industry-wide trend which saw total non-performing loans increase 10 per cent as at the end of June."
dunkang
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:33:11 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
dunkang wrote:
I welcome that too!

Would you mind explaining why this Syria thing is affecting Kenyan bourse, since its truely affecting it? Just Why?

Because in times of CRISIS such as this, investors flee to safe (read USD denominated) assets and exit riskier assets such as emerging markets, commodities and EM currencies. I am actually surprised that the Kenyan market has held up very well so far.

Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Jigga
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:51:08 PM
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kripp wrote:
I have always wondered why in this age of IT our banks require two months or more to release their financial results?

I believe that all financial institutions especially banks "reconcile" their affairs fully at the end of each busines day and for the external audit, the half-year exercise is only a limited review and not a full audit, an exercise than can be completed within a week.

So why are financial institutions in Kenya unable to release their results within 30 days of the reporting date?

Then the dividends (if you are lucky) are released a whole six months after the reporting date yet these are cash-rich enterprises!

Shareholders deserve better.


IT savvyness doesn't really much influence release dates. I think its more of a business/board of directors prerogative and CMA rules. Some boards deliberately delay release when they either want to 'play' the market or heighten anxiety especially when expecting good result. There is a chance of marginal gains depending on how well they play the market. IMHO
guru267
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:14:16 PM
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Jigga wrote:
kripp wrote:
I have always wondered why in this age of IT our banks require two months or more to release their financial results?

I believe that all financial institutions especially banks "reconcile" their affairs fully at the end of each busines day and for the external audit, the half-year exercise is only a limited review and not a full audit, an exercise than can be completed within a week.

So why are financial institutions in Kenya unable to release their results within 30 days of the reporting date?

Then the dividends (if you are lucky) are released a whole six months after the reporting date yet these are cash-rich enterprises!

Shareholders deserve better.


IT savvyness doesn't really much influence release dates. I think its more of a business/board of directors prerogative and CMA rules. Some boards deliberately delay release when they either want to 'play' the market or heighten anxiety especially when expecting good result. There is a chance of marginal gains depending on how well they play the market. IMHO


Its disgusting whenever I see directors playing the market!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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