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ngapat
#1 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 12:56:40 PM
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Torn between these two investment companies though i find myself leaning more towards transentury. I hold small amounts of shares in both but i want to invest big in one. Centum seems to be on take off at the moment. What do you guys think of Trancentury over centum.
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young
#2 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 1:12:36 PM
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Short term (6 months to 2 yrs)= Transcentury
Long term (3 years and above) = Centum.

My growse with centum is that it is a mid cap counter, in their biz model they are not commiited to paying dividend, only script issue (bonuses).
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timuka
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:48:52 AM
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Centum - what has been the main driver behind the recent price rally on this counter? cc mwekez@ji
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mwekez@ji
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:19:45 AM
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timuka wrote:
Centum - what has been the main driver behind the recent price rally on this counter? cc mwekez@ji


Chris Kirubi bought a number of this chips in 1Q13 which stamped a vote of confidence on the counter. From then, its been up, up, up. Am however not keen in this counter especially after Mworia blatantly abused CMA rules and knowing that Centum earning are derived from shady valuations. The share is currently overbought



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http://www.businessdailyafrica....4/-/kflrdfz/-/index.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2...ought-nairobi-mover.html


... @young and others may give their views
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timuka
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:24:58 AM
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asante mwekez@ji - also considering its financial performance in the recent past has been underwhelming. could their be some other good news in the offing? d'oh!
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:39:39 AM
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timuka wrote:
asante mwekez@ji - also considering its financial performance in the recent past has been underwhelming. could their be some other good news in the offing? d'oh!


Valuations have been a rich ground for them to exploit. They could use that to present "good news"
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King G
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:00:40 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
timuka wrote:
asante mwekez@ji - also considering its financial performance in the recent past has been underwhelming. could their be some other good news in the offing? d'oh!


Valuations have been a rich ground for them to exploit. They could use that to present "good news"


Was the KRA and Coca cola tax issue ever resolved? Impact on Centum?
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mwekez@ji
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:20:54 AM
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King G wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
timuka wrote:
asante mwekez@ji - also considering its financial performance in the recent past has been underwhelming. could their be some other good news in the offing? d'oh!


Valuations have been a rich ground for them to exploit. They could use that to present "good news"


Was the KRA and Coca cola tax issue ever resolved? Impact on Centum?


Note yet resolved. Losing the court case will cost Centum KES 5B!!!
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Realtreaty
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:22:02 AM
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As we near the end of dividend free threshold we could see Centum climb to 40 Kes. Investors expect a handsome dividend and bonus shares to cater for the long wait. By end of march 2014 the share will be hot cake ranging upto 60 kes or more as there is a possibility of an investor from Asia coming in! (China may start acquiring assets other than searching for oil and other raw resources in Kenya and Africa)
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mwekez@ji
#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:36:32 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
As we near the end of dividend free threshold we could see Centum climb to 40 Kes. Investors expect a handsome dividend and bonus shares to cater for the long wait. By end of march 2014 the share will be hot cake ranging upto 60 kes or more as there is a possibility of an investor from Asia coming in! (China may start acquiring assets other than searching for oil and other raw resources in Kenya and Africa)


@Realtreaty, Centum has already indicated that they intend to keep on with the no-dividend-policy to beyond 2014
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mwekez@ji
#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:04:24 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
King G wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
timuka wrote:
asante mwekez@ji - also considering its financial performance in the recent past has been underwhelming. could their be some other good news in the offing? d'oh!


Valuations have been a rich ground for them to exploit. They could use that to present "good news"


Was the KRA and Coca cola tax issue ever resolved? Impact on Centum?


Note yet resolved. Losing the court case will cost Centum KES 5B!!!


Mark you 5B is a huge figure for Centum! Its more than half of Centum's retained earnings accumulated over very many years!!
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King G
#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:11:52 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
As we near the end of dividend free threshold we could see Centum climb to 40 Kes. Investors expect a handsome dividend and bonus shares to cater for the long wait. By end of march 2014 the share will be hot cake ranging upto 60 kes or more as there is a possibility of an investor from Asia coming in! (China may start acquiring assets other than searching for oil and other raw resources in Kenya and Africa)


@Realtreaty, Centum has already indicated that they intend to keep on with the no-dividend-policy to beyond 2014


In one of the briefings, Mworia was targeting 2016 for dividends but bonus may be given albert in small dose.
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timuka
#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:35:02 AM
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King G wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
As we near the end of dividend free threshold we could see Centum climb to 40 Kes. Investors expect a handsome dividend and bonus shares to cater for the long wait. By end of march 2014 the share will be hot cake ranging upto 60 kes or more as there is a possibility of an investor from Asia coming in! (China may start acquiring assets other than searching for oil and other raw resources in Kenya and Africa)


@Realtreaty, Centum has already indicated that they intend to keep on with the no-dividend-policy to beyond 2014


In one of the briefings, Mworia was targeting 2016 for dividends but bonus may be given albert in small dose.


Very mean
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:42:13 AM
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That day they refused to issue a profit warning is when i realised Centum is a 'moto wa kuotea mbali'
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timuka
#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:47:25 AM
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dunkang wrote:
That day they refused to issue a profit warning is when i realised Centum is a 'moto wa kuotea mbali'


and subsequently fined kes 50K ONLY by CMA!

As if that was not enough CMA went ahead to appoint Mworia as a member of CMA corporate governance committee. d'oh! SMH! RINK
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