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If you can't plant a seed, no prayers/blessings..
dunkang
#21 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 8:27:20 AM
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kysse wrote:
Kumbe ni Kanyari they were showing on tv?
Kanyari? LOL LOL
And his mom Nduta was jailed for the same years ago?
This Kanyari tht made me chase away my housegirl Lmao.
Cartoon.

I have a sis in law who is an addict of Kupanda Mbegu! Na ukimwambia anagongwa uadui unaingia!

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quicksand
#22 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 8:31:06 AM
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i) People are daft.
ii) These 'pastors' are sociopaths and ...
iii) What they are doing is not illegal
alma
#23 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 9:05:42 AM
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This story reminds me of the other one by k24 and the prostitutes.

It is another example of shoddy work by a journalist. It may be clothe itself as a story but its actually a hit job on a "pastor"

Thus far and to prove my point, most of the comments here say that it was this same pastor who wanted to have sex. Obviously it wasn't and the journalist wasn't apologetic about that misconception.

Was the issue bad "pastors" or this particular "pastor"

If proof of his being fake is that he declined to take 777 bob to pray for an imposter, I'm sure he will say it was God who told him that the person calling was fake.

This journalist had no right to impress upon us his own interpretation of the Bible. Unless of course the Nation has its own church which interprets tithe.

Then to make it worse, the Nation goes ahead and brings in an "expert" to discuss this issue.

The said "expert" happens to be from the competitor church that also collects "seeds" albeit not 777 but you know they collect.

In the end, the story just like the one from k24 smacked of a hidden agenda by competitor church led by the evangelistic journalist.

Do these journalists have editors anymore?
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Rankaz13
#24 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2013 9:14:06 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
ok...
So no one is screaming 'Judge not' now ?
I wonder what benchmark you guys are using to label what is going on here as wrong or heresy.

Listen please.

As long as people who believe they are Christians do not submit to the authority of scripture alone, the door is left open for all manner of 'men of God' to take advantage of people who should know better.

These mpesa preachers did not get this brazen out of the blue...as long as fidelity to scripture is overlooked and the personal 'visions, dreams, visitations,anointings and other forms of personal self aggrandizement by so called men of god replaces the scriptures we will continue to see this and less obvious versions of deception.

Consider the words of Paul to Timothy.

2nd Timothy 4
2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Did you see correct and rebuke..?

Look again.

Im now sounding like a broken record but here goes..

As long as there are people out there who think that the Gospel is a means to health, wealth, prosperity,success in business or any form of earthly bliss then there always will be mpesa churches and mpesa congregations.

If there is a message that is offensive to the carnal mind, it is the Gospel Message. To receive it and repent is a work of the Holy Spirit on the unregenerate heart...
ask the rich young ruler in Mathew 19.



Kweli kabisa!!
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
Wendz
#25 Posted: : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:03:49 AM
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vinii wrote:
I was amused to hear the caller (reporter) being told to plant sh.7,777 so that his container can be released from the port...shouldnt the prophet be asking whether all taxes have been paid before embarking on the payers!


He did not even bother to ask whether ni ya mihadarati.

I just couldnt believe it when i heard the pastor wa kupanda mbegu ya mtoto kwa tumbo..... now, how many men are bringing up this pastor's kids? A man gets happy that the wife ni wa kanisa sana na hana mambo mingi kumbe pastor ni mbweha?
rryyzz
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09:26 AM
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Wendz wrote:
vinii wrote:
I was amused to hear the caller (reporter) being told to plant sh.7,777 so that his container can be released from the port...shouldnt the prophet be asking whether all taxes have been paid before embarking on the payers!


He did not even bother to ask whether ni ya mihadarati.

I just couldnt believe it when i heard the pastor wa kupanda mbegu ya mtoto kwa tumbo..... now, how many men are bringing up this pastor's kids? A man gets happy that the wife ni wa kanisa sana na hana mambo mingi kumbe pastor ni mbweha?

Guess our men should now be veery careful, especially if the mama is those types wakila saa pastor alisema, pastor alisema...........
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
iller
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:37:24 AM
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Jaza Pengo (Alama 10)
And it had to be a .............
McReggae
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:52:41 PM
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masukuma
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:42:00 PM
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iller wrote:
Jaza Pengo (Alama 10)
And it had to be a .............

hahaha... indeed! actually all of them are andu a house!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
MKWASI
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:09:22 PM
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It may not be exactly what should happen but definitely there should be some form of regulations.
Tokyo
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:13:07 PM
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China way- religion should conform with culture or well being of the general society.
work to prosper
Sansa
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:00:03 PM
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Desperate times call for desperate measures!

We are a desperate lot. As long as a woman feels her husband will leave her or that she is not adequate without a child, these things will happen.
Impunity
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:16:15 PM
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Sansa wrote:
Desperate times call for desperate measures!

We are a desperate lot. As long as a woman feels her husband will leave her or that she is not adequate without a child, these things will happen.


He will still live you if he finds that the chaod ears resembles those of Pastor kanyiri/Njoro!
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Tebes
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:55:26 PM
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Who can join me? I want to start an evangelical ministry. I need event organizers, powerful public address system, a few ashurs_sp., SMS solution application software and a few other investments for the great ushirika. Don' t throw stones at me. I will not put a gun on any skull to send the great seed, the first harvest,, the 10% of the gross salary, the project fund and finally Chuma ya mtumishi aka Range Rover Vogue.
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
kysse
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:22:40 PM
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Tebes wrote:
Who can join me? I want to start an evangelical ministry. I need event organizers, powerful public address system, a few ashurs_sp., SMS solution application software and a few other investments for the great ushirika. Don' t throw stones at me. I will not put a gun on any skull to send the great seed, the first harvest,, the 10% of the gross salary, the project fund and finally Chuma ya mtumishi aka Range Rover Vogue.


smile present.
My role will be to Prophelie while vibrating,gyrating and frothing at the mouth.
Got enough doom prophelies from revelation, enough to make people sell their plots/houses/cars.
We shall operate under the guidance of Roho Mtaka vitu.
Few months later we will convert the sunday school into a church academy and ask followers to enroll their kids.I will become headmistress while you Board chair.

Another great idea would be a church sacco.smile kwanza this one with high interest rates? we will buy a plane.

Halafu, we will ask for michangos to buy a plot.It shall be registred in our names not church.
Need I add more?

masukuma
#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:26:18 PM
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kysse wrote:
Tebes wrote:
Who can join me? I want to start an evangelical ministry. I need event organizers, powerful public address system, a few ashurs_sp., SMS solution application software and a few other investments for the great ushirika. Don' t throw stones at me. I will not put a gun on any skull to send the great seed, the first harvest,, the 10% of the gross salary, the project fund and finally Chuma ya mtumishi aka Range Rover Vogue.


smile present.
My role will be to Prophelie while vibrating,gyrating and frothing at the mouth.
Got enough doom prophelies from revelation, enough to make people sell their plots/houses/cars.
We shall operate under the guidance of Roho Mtaka vitu.
Few months later we will convert the sunday school into a church academy and ask followers to enroll their kids.I will become headmistress while you Board chair.

Another great idea would be a church sacco.smile kwanza this one with high interest rates? we will buy a plane.

Halafu, we will ask for michangos to buy a plot.It shall be registred in our names not church.
Need I add more?


you will need to convince people to act like mad men by making them go around vehicles in town 'naming and claiming' them. backing up that greed with scriptures like 'the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous'
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kysse
#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:44:34 PM
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Annointing oil from Israel charges

1L @ kes 5000= Range
1/4L @ kes 1000=Plombox
Empty bottle of the same = tuktuk
Hankerchief's annointed with pastor's sweat =kes 500
thuks
#38 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:42:48 AM
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masukuma wrote:
iller wrote:
Jaza Pengo (Alama 10)
And it had to be a .............

hahaha... indeed! actually all of them are andu a house!


The conning gene is universal
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...&t=25638#post453028
I care!
masukuma
#39 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:50:29 AM
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thuks wrote:
masukuma wrote:
iller wrote:
Jaza Pengo (Alama 10)
And it had to be a .............

hahaha... indeed! actually all of them are andu a house!


The conning gene is universal
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...&t=25638#post453028

Kunyoshana iko everywhere however kuna level za kunyoshana
Churches for example- checkout and see that every "man of God" in a billboard advertising a church is likely to be a mundu wa house.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
butterflyke
#40 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 10:43:23 AM
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turns out this is singer b. bayo's hosband....?
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