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African traditional religion(s) and philosophy in a new world
tycho
#61 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:16:01 PM
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symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.
symbols
#62 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:19:15 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?
tycho
#63 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:30:25 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.
symbols
#64 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:37:17 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?
tycho
#65 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:45:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.
symbols
#66 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:56:56 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?

tycho
#67 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:05:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.
symbols
#68 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:12:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being
tycho
#69 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:18:21 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being


Perfection. Certainty. Security. 'God'.
symbols
#70 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:25:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being


Perfection. Certainty. Security. 'God'.


Is being nature?
Is nature perfect?
Is nature certain?
Is nature secure?
Is nature 'God' or 'God' nature?
symbols
#71 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:40:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being


Perfection. Certainty. Security. 'God'.


Is being nature?
Is nature perfect?
Is nature certain?
Is nature secure?
Is nature 'God' or 'God' nature?


Better yet,what is the role of being in nature - dominion,harmony or both?
tycho
#72 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:54:34 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being


Perfection. Certainty. Security. 'God'.


Is being nature?
Is nature perfect?
Is nature certain?
Is nature secure?
Is nature 'God' or 'God' nature?


Better yet,what is the role of being in nature - dominion,harmony or both?


Being is an 'element' of nature.

Perfection, certainty, security are inferences of beings, and are thus 'contingent'.

God, is a symbol and metaphor of 'ultimate' or 'perfect being'.

The role of being in nature is being.
symbols
#73 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 12:02:21 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
What is being?


Consciousness in present continuous tense.


What is consciousness?


It's the creation, experience, communication, and management of intentions.


What determines intentions?


Nature.


How do we determine nature on a present continuous tense?



We determine ourselves in present continuous tense, and through the 'tools' we use to determine ourselves, we envisage a moment when there's dominion over nature, or harmony with nature.


Implications of dominion over nature or harmony with nature to being


Perfection. Certainty. Security. 'God'.


Is being nature?
Is nature perfect?
Is nature certain?
Is nature secure?
Is nature 'God' or 'God' nature?


Better yet,what is the role of being in nature - dominion,harmony or both?


Being is an 'element' of nature.

Perfection, certainty, security are inferences of beings, and are thus 'contingent'.

God, is a symbol and metaphor of 'ultimate' or 'perfect being'.

The role of being in nature is being.


I like that.
symbols
#74 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 12:07:27 AM
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How do you describe nature without inference?
tycho
#75 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:03:06 AM
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Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
How do you describe nature without inference?


Description is inference.

To get rid of inference, one must not be. To be is to infer.

symbols
#76 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:18:59 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
How do you describe nature without inference?


Description is inference.

To get rid of inference, one must not be. To be is to infer.



A continuous state of inference.I assume inference is dependent on perception.With that can I assume actions are a reflection of perception?
tycho
#77 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:36:00 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
How do you describe nature without inference?


Description is inference.

To get rid of inference, one must not be. To be is to infer.



A continuous state of inference.I assume inference is dependent on perception.With that can I assume actions are a reflection of perception?


Yes.
symbols
#78 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:51:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
How do you describe nature without inference?


Description is inference.

To get rid of inference, one must not be. To be is to infer.



A continuous state of inference.I assume inference is dependent on perception.With that can I assume actions are a reflection of perception?


Yes.


Interesting.An interplay between projection and reflection.
tycho
#79 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:25:08 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
How do you describe nature without inference?


Description is inference.

To get rid of inference, one must not be. To be is to infer.



A continuous state of inference.I assume inference is dependent on perception.With that can I assume actions are a reflection of perception?


Yes.


Interesting.An interplay between projection and reflection.


A mystical one. It's not even in the thunder. Beyond fermions.
AlphDoti
#80 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 1:46:18 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
@tycho! @symbols! Enough, enough of monologue. You sound like the same person!

I agree that you two lads are very smart. I know this energy you have will take you places, benefit you, your family and our country.

Now, let us go back to the topic of discussion.
We are talking about African culture and Western world viewpoints and values.

Let us analyze what has been happening in the new world today:
Western world:
- which has the highest standard of living,
- which is the most advanced,
- which has the highest level of education
- which has the highest buildings
- the most institutions
- the most enjoyment
- the most developed technologies
- the most preferred way of life
- the most beautiful houses
- the most diversified market place
- the pearl of the earth where everybody is being called to.

Now let me give you some statistics about the Western world:
1. Every single hour, 106 children are aborted (murdered), which means every three hours 350 children killed in the womb.
Every 24 hrs, nearly 3000! Every week 21000. Every month 85000. Every year 1.3M children are killed in the womb.
Little people who are 14 wks, 18wks, 30wks, they are even killing them when they are at 40 wks, can you imagine that?

2. Every 7 seconds a woman is raped.
That means 10 every hour. That means 300 women are raped everyday

3. At any given time, there are 2.8M prostitutes walking their streets
Whether in Holand, or in New York, or Woshington DC, or in France
2.8M women who prefer to be prostitutes even though they had the choice if they liked to be mothers or wives.
But they choose to be prostitutes because there are more than 10M men who prefer them also to be prostitutes because that is their clients.

4. Every single day 350 young children are snatched off the streets and put into some kind of place where they will be used for child prostitution.
Every day 350 children disappear and used as pedophiles.
We read similar story from the Star today, right?

5. Every single 357 people shoot themselves in the head, take some pill, slit their rists.
Every single day 357, they have no reason to live. This is the developed Western world.

There are more and more statistics, but I think you understand. They boast of having superior culture, but I don't think so.

But of course, they have an alternative values to Western culture.

And if they repent, and look at African culture or better still Islam, they can change themselves, purify themselves, and this new culture will solve the problems that they have.
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