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Conversion of Christianity to Islam
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:51:00 PM
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I was watching the news and... it got me thinking about the wars in my lifetime:

* muslims killing Jews in Israel (3 wars in the past 40 years)
* muslims killing Orthodox Russians in Chechnya
* muslims killing black Christians & Animists in S.Sudan
* muslims killing black Africans in Darfur
* muslims killed Americans in USA (2001)
* muslims killed INNOCENT Kenyans in Nairobi (US Embassy bombings)
* muslims killed Tanzanians in Dar (US Embassy bombings)
* muslims killing Hindus (Kashmir India)
* muslims killing Hindus in Mumbai (2009)
* muslims killing muslims (all over the place e.g pakistan,iraq)
* muslims killing Hindus & Christians (Bali)
* muslims killing Christians (Pakistan)
* muslims killed Buddhists (Afghanistan during the taliban rule)

In my lifetime,most major wars seem to have muslims on one end.

Muslims have fought with every other major religious group (Christians,Hindus,Buddhists,Atheists) in the past 30 years.


Why?

There are very few clashes between Atheists,Hindus,Buddhists & Christians. And most are very localised.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ogutuwalwanga
#42 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:59:00 PM
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I lived in an Arabic world for seven years.The only problem i had with Islam is that a BLACK MAN IS A SLAVE PERIOD.Dont forget they were brokers during the slave trade.Discount securities of the present time

ogutu
Djinn
#43 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:11:00 PM
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@Reiner,turning apostate is a weighty decision - I personally think Islam is the true religion - the last Gospel - am sure there will be a lot of flaming but if people take time to read the Quran and the Bible,they will see where the Quran takes over from the Bible. Further,the Bible,whatever version we see on sale,is a culmination of many languages translated,transcribed over many centuries from Aramaic,Hebrew and other tongues of yore. Forget all the myopic and shallow arguments presented here - you should realize that Christianity has been here for pretty long and many Kenyans have embraced all it came with including capitalist and anti-Islamic ideologies. I have to keep from laughing to see the list of all the wars associated with Islam - those are waged UNDER Islam by extremists - If Islam was a religion of intolerance,Israel would haved ceased to exist 5 minutes after the Gaza strikes - its extremists within Islam as much as it was Catholics in IRA,Sikhs in India against Hindus,Aryans against Jews,etc etc. Islam actually stands for peace.


That aside - visit www.islamreligion.com/articles/204/


That should put you on the right path and answer questions about converting.

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
jammo
#44 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:57:00 AM
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After all is said and done.... A christian..is a follower of Christ..Jesus Christ.. A muslim..follower of mohammed. Choose yourself. It is unfortunate successive generations of christians hav watered down followin Christ to followin followers and diverse interpretations and teachings of what those followers 'think' is Christ. ..thus why Joel osteen has unfortunately been turned to a 'fashion'..and a church not teachin on prosperity and the 'power of attraction'..(the think it u hav it phenomenon) are havin membership plummet like whoa!! Same to islam..yet to see where mohammed tought on murder as way to salvation..

The race is not always to the swift..nor the battle always to the strong..nor food always to the wise..nor riches always to the intelligent..favor is not always to the skilled..or learned..but time and chance happens to all. Ecl9:5..
Mr.Tea
#45 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:47:00 AM
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Christianity is a religion of sinners who have found a little mercy from Christ. It is God's movement and not christian's and therefore cannot be judged for the flaws of its followers who often fall short. Christ has called his followers to high standards and are required to hold themselves up to those standards-the standards of the bible. As to whether all christians abide by this is a different matter. Your decision(concerning your eternity),however fabulous can not,should not be informed by the lifestyle of the other followers for they too will be held to account on the day of reckoning. Christ during his days on earth left us a great example for us to follow. I believe all religion is good for it teaches morality and dicipline.This builds character. Having said this,I must say that none teaches these in such a profound life-altering way with a promise of a restiful eternity the way the bible does. Again,none teaches about a God that is so lovingly faithful as he is benovolent but at the same time unflinchingly punishes sin as this one. He has given us the best gift that none else can give-the gift of choice.You can choose life or death,sin or righteousness,you can even choose religion. Choose life *Reiner.

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jammo
#46 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:57:00 AM
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Alphdot... Nah!! I ..christian... Jesus Christ my personal Lord and saviour..died for me..cleansed my sin..now i live with hop for eternal glory..teachin of Jesus Christ..a teachin not espoused by Islam.... Muslim..well have own reasons why mohammed is most prevalent in teachin n practice in life. And no MR. TEA!! Christianity is not a religion...its a relationship..that God is my Father..thro Jesus Christ.. The religion u refer too is judaism...whose relevance died with Christ's death on the cross.

The race is not always to the swift..nor the battle always to the strong..nor food always to the wise..nor riches always to the intelligent..favor is not always to the skilled..or learned..but time and chance happens to all. Ecl9:5..
AlphDoti
#47 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:03:00 AM
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Be Christian or Jew or Muslim if you will be guided to salvation.

I would rather the religion of Abraham the true,he did not join gods with God.

Or do you say Abraham,Ismail,Isaac,jacob and tribes were Jews or Christians?

Abraham was not Jew,not a Christian,but he was an upright man who surrendered to God/Allah and his was not of idolaters.



Similarity of Jesus in the eyes of God is that of Adam.

He created him from dust,the said to him 'be' and he was.



Listen to this:

- People of the Bible,do not commit excesses in your religion.

- Do not say God should have,just believe the truth.

- Jesus Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle of God.

- and God's Word bestowed on Mary,and a spirit proceeding from him;

- so believe in God and his apostles.



Do not say trinity,desist from this it,it will be better for you.

For God is one God,glory be to him.

He's exalted,above having a son.

All things in heavens and earth belong to him.

Enough is God running affairs.



Remember jesus the son of Mary said:

O children of Israel

I'm the apostle of God

sent to you confirming the law which came before me



But he came to people of Israel with clear signs,they said: this is sorcery.


AKS
VituVingiSana
#48 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:33:00 AM
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What a crock.

See earlier post. muslims kill everyone in any religion including fellow muslims. I am not talking individual murders but systemic murders/genocide.

As someone said... among muslims,being black = slave.

tippu tip,all those omanis... for Kenyans they are the SLAVE TRADERS.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#49 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:37:00 AM
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did mohammed marry a 9-yr old (younger than 13 yrs) girl named aisha?

did mohammad & his wife (fatima) keep slaves?

did (or do) muslims castrate black slaves?

did muslims run the east african slave trade?

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
danny6
#50 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:41:00 AM
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just to ask,why is it that when a muslim visits a lavatory he/she has to carry a bottle of water?

'When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door,that we do not see the ones which open for us'.
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