, most men have slept with women who drink .but when it comes to serious dating or courtship drinking can become a major turn off for men.
To the main point of career women and pombe, this mainly arises due to frustrations on the womans side. Try to put yourself in the shoes of a young lady with a well paying job, she can't get a descent date because all the men keep off because of her perceived "arrogance" , so she ends up lonely most of the time.
solution:= kuwa mpole wewe career woman pombe or drinking in the table of men doesn't show that you have made it in this man dominated world, it shows you are stupid and you need prayers.

some of the ladies here in wazua are sick

How can you compare a man and a woman? It can't be..It's like fighting nature and you can never win.

Advice to men: Dont marry a woman who drinks or smokes.If you do you will suffer alone,plus your kids as well will turn out drunkards.

There are some good women still.Look out for one,you will get.

Don't solely judge a woman by the size of his buttocks,tits or how beautiful she looks.Judge her and be attracted to her mainly because of her character.That's what matters eventually

Beauty fades away so fast and same case with haga

However, we nowadays have this crop of women especially in Nairobi who drinks a lot.Although they think they have money,they are useless.

They end up desperate in life eventually with a kid or two ,no husband .Some have unimaginable complications,cannot even give birth.

Keep off from them.It's not worth it even shagging them.

All in all decent ladies are there,more so if you know what you want.

Yaaaaaawwwn...The f***in holy republic of wazua

I think what all the men posting here need to know is that although it looks bad on a woman who goes out all night and turns up at 3am ,there is nothing glorious,sexy,responsible,worth emaluating,excting,honoroubale ( i could type more) about a man who does the same
Toeni goggles mboys !

That too is crappy behavior. Everyone should moderate. But we won't always be judged by the same rules. That's what I am saying.

OK,now who talked about equality ?

Muko na shida za kuijiwekelea.
This is not about equality.

If you can't change people click ignore-honestly that's how I stand my ground and avoid getting stressed with what irritates me.
You don't have to suck in other people's wayward behavior.
The world is rotten,you can close your inner eyes to what happens around you because you will be haunted day in and out.
One thing I tell myself is-I am not a moral prefect.People no longer care.They don't.

I wouldn't go to clubs and expect to find women/men singing halleluhya and sipping delmonte.
The venue and environment itself sets the mood for what to expect so you wanna be at peace? AVOID THE PLACE altogether.

Don't enjoy and criticise.

Who?

Its natural,anything that falls,falls to the ground. Nothing ever falls to the sky.
The talk of men drinking hence women havin the same right is just but stupid.

Majority, if not all men are turned off by drunk ladies and that sums it up.
Chase your rights and most men will just avoid getting down with you.
That's the way it is.

My final 2 cent.
Do not go into a pub/club/all these crazy places and expect to find morality there.
Do not even criticize those you find there because they are doing exactly what you went to do,which is drink and lose it.

I have seen women who don't care at all hadi nashangaa.But you know what? they hang around men who don't care as well.
Bird of the same feather.

But it's just a lively enjoyable discussion to get rid of baridi. We all know what we prefer.