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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Reiner, Islam predicted its own demise. It will be extinguished as it was born. Muhammad was unable to give his followers a reason to live,so he gave Muslims a reason to die. And tragically,they shall. Allah's prophet sacrificed three billion souls upon the altar of his selfish ambitions. The Messiah was the inverse of Muhammad. He made himself a living sacrifice,building a bridge between our polluted world and his perfect one. He died that we might live. He lives that we might never die.........there lies your only choice Guka wa bijuti... Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2009 Posts: 172
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It is good to have faith but even stock analysts look at facts before they jump to conclusions.
First of all,the Messiah as you call him has not yet come. The messiah being a Jewish concept,it would be prudent for christians to accept that the so called children of god do not believe that the messiah has come. No amount of hyperventilating will change that fact.
Second,it is plain to see that most christians do not bother reading historical books. some of the modern day christian practises were copied from aetheists in Rome. It was the only way to convert these people to christianity by Paul. He had to make christianity palatable to the idol worshippers in Rome. Case in point,christmas day and all those effigies in churches.
Third,Jesus was in no way white. scientifically proven but I am sure christians do not think that this has not shaped some of their beliefs. For example marrying only one wife. Totally white concept not practised by anyone during the period of Christ.
In no way I'm I saying that what Jesus or Mohammed taught were wrong. I think they were right but what we have now is a bunch of humans going around deciding what they will understand or not according to their own prejudices.
Case in point,go to any christian kesha and you will find the preacher telling you how rich you will become if you give him some money. Doesn't explain where Jesus said that.
All black things are evil,including the african. Preached even in some churches in the world today. This is no different from all muslims are evil. Or the so called non-believers will go to hell. A concept that is totally a pagan concept in Rome.
Christianity is now a fake religion followed by holier than thous. Let us try to be Mother Teresas of this world instead of saying anyone not following your church is going to hell shall we?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/12/2008 Posts: 74
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@ Wendz,
I guess this explains why christians % is declining.These are my 2 cents,
'Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life,and only a few find it. ' . ..
For me to live is Jesus Christ,to die is gain
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 15
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@ Njunge, You said ....Mohamed woke up one morning and declared himself prophet..unqoute. You think he is a fake prophet,that is your conjecture,coz you can not wish otherwise. You will be glad to know he is a real Prophet and the promised last Prophet of the world. The proof is found in all the old scriptures of the world. Check this out http://www.scribd.com/do...ds-religious-Scriptures
Peace We can draw lessons from the past,but we cannot live in it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2009 Posts: 172
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@Rassa,Trying to argue with a religious fanatic is a waste of time. Good luck to you. I have given up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2009 Posts: 17
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@rassa,@nanfor. Please read my last post and let's argue on point-by-point basis. . .expose my fallacies of thought.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 345
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We were all born where we were born...and thro our childhood to adulthood were taught,exposed..indoctrinated into our various faiths and beliefs...and probability of getting over it is really small! For that reason..i'd rather a God who'd reach out for me...than go samplin,testin,trying,guessin,which is right or wrong. Like Elijah the prophet is recorded to have said... Let God be God and Baal be Baal.... Choose for yourself what u shall belive...whom u shall beliv in...but for me and my house..we shall serve the Lord...
The race is not always to the swift..nor the battle always to the strong..nor food always to the wise..nor riches always to the intelligent..favor is not always to the skilled..or learned..but time and chance happens to all. Ecl9:5..
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/7/2007 Posts: 168 Location: Nairobi
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ai Nanfo...
... God have mercy on you.
I challenge you today if you will. Begin to read the Bible right from the beginning. Read it as you would a story book. By the way,the BIble has the best account of History.
See if you will finish it from Genesis to Revelation without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
I CHALLENGE YOU
the voice of reason
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2009 Posts: 172
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@Mkristo
Its good you understand that it is a story book. Actually a Jewish story book. How you christians can decide all of a sudden that you can quote from one section of that book and not another is way beyond me. You only quote the sections that spread your own agendas.
If you can show me a part of the bible that says that all muslims,Jews,indians,budhists and even my african forefathers will be burned in a fire that is too large to comprehend,I will show you a political motive.
I have read the book probably more times than you have and all other holy scriptures and also historical documents. I can assure you that christianity is not short of its own political intrigues and fake ideas. These of course include that you should burn everyone as a witch who says the world is round.
You are the one who needs to be challenged to understand where the scriptures came from and who wrote them and why. I am sorry to disappoint you but most of what Paul wrote about and especially the book of revelations is based on pagan worship scriptures in acient Rome. Just because you do not take the time to read widely does not make me the person who needs to be prayed for. You are the one who is blinded by faith that even you question. If you need links to the story of revelations and a political movement in ancient Rome,please send me your email addy. Otherwise stop scaring people with things you don't know.
I don't question the scriptures. I question the ones who pretend they know it. I don't,that is why I read widely and get to understand why it is a strong political instrument. It can also be used as an excellent medical book (deutronomy).
I am not a lemming and don't follow thieves who scream in the church yet are busy sleeping with their members,calling others that tribe or another and never ever think about the effects of driving fuel guzzling lorries has on the environment that God has left in their hands to protect. Go preach to someone who cannot see through your hypocracy.
A christian and especially one who constantly claims to have been' washed in the blood' (another pagan belief),has been scientifically proven to have the same characteristics as a cult member. If you need links to the studies,please avail your email.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 15
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@ Mkristo
Go through this holy verses see how Allah talk to people like you. Take the heed and be warned !
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah,and His Word,which He bestowed on Mary,and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not 'Trinity' : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. Chapter 4.171
Say: If there had been (other) gods with Him,as they say,- behold,they would certainly have sought out a way to the Lord of the Throne! Glory to Him! He is high above all that they say!- Exalted and Great (beyond measure)! The seven heavens and the earth,and all beings therein,declare His glory: there is not a thing but celebrates His praise; And yet ye understand not how they declare His glory! Verily He is Oft-Forbear,Most Forgiving! Chapter 17-42-44
Peace
We can draw lessons from the past,but we cannot live in it.
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